This interview seems to me to be one of the most important interviews of recent months. Especially for those people who want to understand what the corona complex is all about. The Nobel laureate Prof. Dr. Ezekiel Okemwa wrote under Part 2 of the interview, which you can also find here in the Club and on YouTube:
"As UN civil society East Africa - UNGA 2020 award SDG pioneers - with 1.45 million members, we are very grateful for your remarks - ASANTE SANA Prof. Dr. Ezekiel Okemwa (Nobel Prize Laureate - with Al-Gore)"
The interviewee is Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a courageous and qualified lawyer on the eve of the start of a German damages trial of historic proportions. According to cautious, well-founded assumptions and projections by Dr. Fuellmich and his academic colleagues, the total volume amounts to almost a quadrillion. The starting point for the legal investigation is the false factual claims made by the virologist and institute director at the Charité, Prof. Dr. Christian Drosten. An interview that gives you insights into facts, social, economic and political processes that you will not find elsewhere in the clear, unagitated and highly competent language of the interview guest.
#hink for yourself
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I don't find the lawyer Fuellmich to be as serious and convincing as he is trying to suggest here. Although he holds ALles in such high esteem and it's an incredibly important case for him, he doesn't manage to watch and analyze the entire 3-hour meeting of the CDU executive committee (with the Gates Foundation, among others) cited as proof of his theses? Does he need the "help of journalists" for this? All right ...
He just fires off a lot of things that sound serious and convincing and he also has some questionable points to make (but it's clear anyway that not everything went perfectly) but he doesn't seem to want to work in a more detailed and serious way than the other side... that's too exhausting.
The name Prof. Dr. Ezekiel Okemwa cannot be found in either the English or German Wikipedia list of Nobel Prize winners. There is Al Gore and the IPCC.
Can anyone who sits or sat on the IPCC call themselves a Nobel Prize winner?
No, the Nobel Prizes are awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, the Karolinska Institute, the Swedish Academy and the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your research and the neutral presentation of the facts in your articles. Some of them are more exciting than a thriller.
In my view, the class action is a first step towards addressing this issue. The product liability approach sounds promising.
The only thing I can think of about PCR tests is: "if you measure, you measure crap". When I read about 30/40 or more cycles and various conversions of genes, I feel sick as someone who is well versed in measurement technology and statistics. A stable, reproducible measurement system sounds different to me. The fact that laboratories can theoretically modify the tests themselves and that they do not have to be approved is the icing on the cake. I ask myself the question: what can citizens do who are "ordered" to be deprived of their liberty on the basis of the results of an unstable measuring system? Is such a thing even tenable?
The following comment on product liability: in companies, employees are increasingly confronted with product liability training and various compliance issues (bribery/antitrust law). Politicians should also have to complete such a training program and be obliged to comply with it. I lose my job and can be held financially accountable for any damage caused if I violate this. Hence the reference to an earlier comment on laboratory liability: If someone knowingly uses or distributes a defective product, they are also liable for damages incurred.
One last note to Mr. Langemann:
Is it possible to publish subsequently created transcripts and the audio versions on one page? This would collect the comments on the same topic, so to speak. There are currently 85 comments on the page with the video and 15 comments on the page with the transcript. Just a suggestion, if it is technically possible.
If someone does such great work as Dr. Fuellmich - and if the lawsuit is successful, then that is more than great work - then he should also earn a lot of money! He has every right to do so! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we get our freedom and basic rights back!
That's exactly how I see it.
Merkel and co. earn so much money from our tax money and destroy our homeland through their "intentional or unintentional" incompetence.
As some comments now show, further connections are being drawn. If you want to get an overview of the (overall) connections, you can watch this video. I do not share all of Mr. Igan's views, but I find this summary of the state of affairs remarkable. It also provides a legal context. Here is a link:
SOMETHING BIG IS COMING
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3IF00PMgcKzr/
NEWS RELEASE: Corona Transition evaluates dissertation by Prof. Christian Drosten
Drosten is the wrong man, just an unimportant pawn in the "game" (apart from his role as a whipping boy).
If the worst comes to the worst, he's more likely to be the pawn sacrifice that protects the queen and bishop.
Why?
Are there any indications/clues that his scientific qualification would not be appropriate?
CT writes, among other things, quote:
When first reviewing the doctoral thesis, it is noticeable that Prof. Drosten does not make the usual "declaration in lieu of an oath" at the end of his dissertation, but instead chooses the wording "declaration in lieu of an oath".
The difference is of enormous significance. In Germany, false statements in affidavits constitute a criminal offense under the Criminal Code and can be punished with imprisonment. A "sworn statement", on the other hand, cannot be legally challenged. Most universities therefore include the declaration on oath in their doctoral degree regulations
And Drosten's university, what did it demand?
But I think that's the wrong tree to bark at anyway, because as I've already written, Drosten may just be a pawn.
The real problem is Dr. Merkel - herself a scientist and therefore only believes other scientists, and after three terms of office already in other spheres anyway. And which German/foreign judge would tinker with Dr. Merkel's stuff?
Nothing against the educational work that inevitably goes hand in hand with Mr. Fuellmich's actual efforts to launch his class action.
(5 years ago, mass PCR tests would probably have generated the same figures that our government uses today for statistical acrobatics).
However, despite Fuellmich's assurances that his project is altruistic, it should be borne in mind that law firms seeking a class action lawsuit along American lines always act out of a certain gold-digger mentality. In this case, however, the defendant is not just any company that is being fleeced or even broken up, but a country - Germany. It is an illusion on Mr. Fuellmich's part to believe that the aggrieved German business community does not recognize the milquetoast calculation involved here. In the long term, they would have to pay back their own compensation via the tax, there is no way around it. If this class action is successful, there would also be immense claims from abroad, which would not only weaken Germany but could drive it into complete ruin. But what does Mr. Fuellmich care - he still has his bonanza ranch in sunny California.
Hello Mr. Nefe, I have no "shares" in Dr. Fuellmich or his work. But I have collected a lot of critical questions from viewers and users and put them to Mr. Fuellmich. I really appreciate it when people face up to criticism, when it is expressed with an open mind and politely, but in a clear and well-founded manner. The second round of questions to Dr. Fuellmich has not yet been published and will be published at the weekend. So stay tuned. Fundamentally, I would like to see our society return to the practice of tolerating contradiction and sometimes standing still when we are unable to give well-founded answers to factual questions. I am convinced that our society would benefit if we acted a little less instantly and did not give in to every impulse to express an opinion. That's also one reason why I don't comment much here but read a lot and really appreciate the cultivated discourse here, because an OPINION is not relevant, but the information you find here is. Best regards M.L. #denkeselbst.
Although the whole world is concerned about this issue, it is incredibly difficult to get comprehensive information. There were critical voices right from the start, but they were ignored by the leading media and quickly pigeonholed. Just like the people at the demonstrations in many cities across the country. The term "Covidiot" is just one example of many in this context.
That is why it has been very difficult to get a comprehensive overview so far. Over the past few months, I have been particularly concerned with the question of why there is such one-sided reporting on this topic. Not only in Germany, but above all worldwide. This article has provided me with answers to many pressing questions that I would have liked to have heard from the government, the leading media or at least the opposition. Urgent questions that were on my mind and I am certainly not exaggerating when I say that I feel better after this article. There is at least some light at the end of the tunnel.
I am sure that the lawsuit(s) will come. However, I'm not really able to imagine the effects/consequences of these lawsuits at the moment. We can't go on like this, because too many people have suffered so much. We can only hope that the justice system will work and that the background will be investigated.
Since Drosten and Wieler do not have much to gain in relation to the damage, the question arises:
Who is liable for the damage?
The whole world will try to take advantage of Germany here, as there will certainly be attempts to establish a liability-relevant connection between the two and the government.
That will be the financial end of Germany.
Or am I making a mistake here?
You didn't. That may also be the point of the exercise. With the precise question posed by H. Langemann, the eggs start to drop - if Drosten has "not suitable" written on the package insert, then that's what it is - neither Drosten nor his lawyers are stupid, and what remains are the legal costs. And - with suitable judges - a flat Germany.
What puzzled me is the complete omission of the events in the US by someone who lives there, and then in California. Thumb cross-check:
Victoria, Australia. Does Drosten fight there? Wuhan: do they trade according to Drosten?
One could also refer to Section 36 of the Civil Service Status Act: (1) Civil servants shall bear full personal responsibility for the legality of their official actions.
But it's more like small cattle, legally speaking.
The interview with Reiner Fuellmich (and many a comment on this site) is infinitely valuable for those who want to know what is really at stake, and I am very, very grateful to all those who have dedicated themselves to the task of factual clarification.
And then the following: MY SISTER, WHO CURRENTLY STILL LIVES IN THE BAHAMAS, EXPRESSES THE WISH FOR AN ENGLISH VERSION
OF THE INTERVIEW FOR DISSEMINATION IN THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING WORLD.
Perhaps I should also mention that she and my brother-in-law had to give up their current material livelihood, namely a restaurant in the Bahamas/Nassau, due to the corona "crisis" and will now be returning to Europe completely destitute.
Thank you for your love of truth and justice! As long as we still have people like this in our state who give their expertise to humanity, human dignity is still inviolable and not yet lost. Much worse than the material loss caused by the lockdown is the degradation caused by the measures.
When you are 80 years old, you have learned something from history and can no longer be taken for a fool by politicians. You are ashamed of your authorities.
If such lawyers were in charge of our state, the world would be a different place.
Support, of course, for this legal action. I just don't believe that lawyers will save the world.
Sorry if I contributed something skeptical:
When I look at the ideas on the consequences of the crisis, I shudder.
Climate change - we need to do more to avert it! - says Mr. Füllmich. So it's all mainstream here. It's the same phenomenon there as with the corona idiocy: people believe that some favorite experts know what's going on (nasty, nasty CO2!!) and how to save the world, then instead of isolating and incapacitating people (corona) - ban combustion engines, reduce economic activity.
People, people - this is how we jump from the frying pan into the fire.
All right, let's get out of the rain first. That's the order of the day now.
But then the fight goes on, then against the climate hysterics, which sadly includes Füllmich. Well, that's what you get when you believe in science. You are lost and think you have to replace God. The further we move away from God, and we've already come a long way, the more insane and confused our fantasies of omnipotence become. Apparently no one here has learned anything from the parable of the Tower of Babel. Well then, "Let's go, let's go - to our doom!"
I think the Tower of Babel is a great comment.
Unfortunately, I have to pour a little water into the wine.
I was also very enthusiastic about the interview with Dr. Fuellmich and have great hope that he will achieve something for our "cause".
But a few things made me wonder. For example, the statement that he only did it "for the love of his wife" and that he was doing it
actually just wanted to sit it out, but that's not all that important.
But now a few questions to Dr. Fuellmich himself, which he asked at the end of the interview, on other topics.
These are some questions for Dr. Fuellmich personally, please forward them to the editors or the admin:
Dr. Fuellmich:
You are against factory farming, okay, but what are you specifically concerned about in this topic, what would you change? Have you
ever dealt with the topic in more detail? Are you vegetarian or vegan? For your information, vegans need vitamins in the form of
Pills to avoid deficiency symptoms.
They are against T-shirts being sold here for €2 that were made by children in Bangladesh. I don't know any stores in Germany,
that offers T-shirts for €2. Please name me such a store. When I buy a T-shirt, it usually costs around €15.
Are there stores in California that sell T-shirts from Bangladesh for €2? That's possible.
They want us to do something about global warming. Is there such a thing as global warming? Of course not! How much C02
is in the air or in the atmosphere, I won't tell you, you can find all about it on the internet.
That all sounds very, very green.
Hopefully the Greens will be satisfied with this complaint.
Please forward
Yours sincerely
Hartmut Hollweg
Do you really think that watering down - or rather, pouring ink into water like an octopus does on the run - and digressing from the topic at hand contributes anything to an objective discussion?
I agree with you!
And Fuellmich is (a few times hints have slipped out) a linxgreen voter, sits in California, the center of the LEFT Democrats (but has not (yet) understood that this corona in the USA is pushing against Trump and that he is / would be his partner - has the WHO poured out), has also praised Warren and Biden in a subordinate clause as a bearer of hope. (One who is now recognizably totally stupid and, at least since UKRAINE, also recognizably unrestrainedly corrupt. But worst of all for me: there is hardly a group photo where he is not standing in front of little girls, sniffing them and "accidentally" trying to fondle a nipple).
WURSCHT: It is believable that Fuellmich does not want to live in the "Bill Gates Corona" world, any more than I do (who has gone underground since H5N1 for the sake of my quackies and knows very well that not even the PCR Nobel Prize winner K. Mullis managed to find the HIV/Aids study as a source reference for a report).
AND: Only the American money-grubbing lawyers have a chance of detonating a "bomb", especially as the US judiciary has it in its genes to feel responsible for everything in the world anyway. Even if Drosten doesn't exactly give them an eleven.
In this respect, Fuellmich once considered charging €800 net RA fees per participant so that everyone can take part - PLUS 10% profit sharing.
That would be a few billion as a treat for the lawyers. Nevertheless, I liked the cautious approach to the selection, because perhaps a few hundred million is enough for some people to lose.
The lawsuit is work enough, so he doesn't need to fear global warming (especially as he may have learned by then that the Indians in California used to burn the dry undergrowth like the Aborigines in Australia. Until the Greens banned it. And now it really burns)
What are you actually against? Or for what?
Unfortunately, this is not at all clear from your article.
As far as scarfing in Australia and North America is concerned, there is excellent information available online.
This contribution gives many people and companies hope of being able to live in a society again where people can meet without masks. Where the valuable facial expressions can come back to life, where children in particular can breathe freely again and look at themselves and their fellow human beings without hindrance.
It is also hoped that the divisions in society caused by mistrust and fear will be overcome.
There is also hope that smaller companies will be able to breathe a sigh of relief and that new companies may be able to emerge.
"Hope dies last".
Addendum and with an urgent appeal to all readers:
Be sure to follow Martin Armstrong Economics, blog postings are free, for a whole €15 a month (private blog)
you have access to world-class information from the financial sector as well as his immensely important commentaries
On current events at international level. This legend is deeply networked, his recently published article
( private blog) is shocking. I have outlined the following about him elsewhere, perhaps that will suffice for classification:
I have been following the American analyst Martin Armstrong for a long time, you may recognize his name.
Follow him (his blog) possibly on a daily basis and make your
own picture. His international network is outstanding, he has
own staff everywhere, in order to be able to stand out from the mainstream media.
to get my own overview. I want to discuss the controversial topic of
Bill Gates, but you can also read about this on the blog
some videos with Gates or about him, which as far as I know are not available here.
is not to be seen.
Alternatively, enter terms in the search mask such as Gates, Fauci
or Merkel and read reports from the last few years
Of course, the hot topics are the 'Great Reset' and the 'Green Deal',
type this into the search box and you will quickly realize that everything,
what is currently happening around us is globally coordinated.
Armstrong is important because, among other things, he advised the ECB before the introduction of the euro and knows all the connections.
he is deeply networked, especially in the USA, sometimes even in Trump's environment (no joke!!)
The topic of corona should be the door opener to pull off the Great Reset. Understanding everything that is happening around us
if you read the agenda of the WEC (World Economic Forum), that's the elite that always meets in Davos.
Klaus Schwab (the founder) has said that you only have a small window of time to pull this off.
He said that the upheavals had to be so brutal and come so quickly that the other side would not be able to grasp what was coming. That's exactly what we're seeing at the moment; the majority of people don't have it on their radar yet.
According to Armstrong, the project will fail; in my opinion, the question is how much prosperity will be destroyed by then.
Each of us should try every day to convince others of what is going on here, it takes time and energy, setbacks are part of it, but this is the only way to move forward.
There is a well-designed flyer on the Schulenstehenauf.de website under Downloads that shows the characteristics of a real pandemic.
the characteristics of a fake pandemic. This should also be obvious to those who are simply structured.
The Belgians seem to be a little further ahead, where around 200 citizens have sued their own government and Bill Gates.
I don't know the current status, the troupe is called viruzvaanzin.be (spelling subject to change, article at Armstrong
Economics)
Hi Jochen.
Discussions with others didn't do much for me. I realized that it was even damaging my health. That's why I now take a different approach. I post the information on my status on my cell phone. So everyone can choose whether they want to read it or not and think for themselves, without pressure.
Greetings Claudia
Hi Claudia,
also an idea, thank you. I often think about how to get information out to the people without
Wasting energy pointlessly, a few flyers in letterboxes etc. are also pleasant.
The blog here is one of my few stars that are still shining. Perhaps readers are interested in networking,
I stand ready.
Greetings
It was unknown to me until just now (5:30 this morning), but the latest posting by Armstrong draws attention to a book
Schwab's book, "Covid-19: The Great Reset," is clearly propaganda because they are handing it out for free on kindle. (Amazon)
Perhaps the thought is too pessimistic, but a whistleblower is reported to have said that in Germany
checkpoints are to be set up at central points (train stations, etc.) so that vaccinations can also be carried out there at a later date
and thus sort the people.
Today's news fits in quite well with this..:
Spahn now wants to set up fever outpatient clinics and Mr. Söder is already calling for 100 people for Bavaria
of the Bundeswehr to monitor measures.
I leave it to the reader's imagination whether this could be a scenario.
Söder rhymes with ... ?
Incidentally, it is called the Bundeswehr and not the Bayernwehr.
The story of the Bavarian border police shows how to deal with such muzziness.
Many thanks to all involved for this factual, competent and informative interview. It would be great if such information were available in pdf format so that it could be passed on to uninformed people, e.g. friends, neighbors, etc.
This means that important information always remains in the same "haze" circle.
Dear Mr. Langemann!
Many, many thanks for this wonderful interview, for your work, for your commitment.
I grew up in a dictatorship and after my release from it, I was more than happy to be able to live in Germany. Full of confidence in politics and our lives, I got involved in society and carried on the thought: "Dear people, we live in the best country in the world".
What is happening now shakes me to the core and reminds me of the darkest times of my former life in the dictatorship.
Many thanks to you and everyone who is helping to put an end to this corona madness.
I'm in.
THANK YOU.
A.Weyh
A translation/linguistic note: The English word "billions" corresponds to the German "Milliarden". There are no trillions or billions in German, it just happens that the English term creeps in when translating.
Of course, German also knows trillions and quadrillions!
Of course, from the English language in bad translations.
Incidentally, such dogmatism is not really useful here.
Just so that the incorrect assertions do not remain here - Mr. Burow's objection is completely justified. Everyone should know the following when reading English texts or translations and generally be careful when interpreting figures - especially in translations.
German
1000 million = 1 billion
1000 billion = 1 trillion
1000 trillion = 1 quadrillion
Etc.
English
1000 million = 1 trillion
1000 trillion = 1 trillion
Etc.
So it is not necessarily wrong when someone talks about quadrillions.
I watched the whole interview and found it very informative and exciting. The only thing that bothers me is a mistake right at the beginning. It's about the total volume, which is said to be "close to a quadrillion".
Just for comparison: Germany's gross domestic product amounted to around €3.4 trillion in 2019. A quadrillion would be around 300 times that. That can't be right.
The error also has nothing to do with the American way of counting (short scale), because there trillion would come after trillion.
A correction, at least in the written introduction, seems urgently necessary to me.
Yours sincerely
Hello Mr. Kalinins, indeed. It is a slip of the tongue that crept in from the "translation" of the English and brought some chaos to the zeros and their meaningful naming. Sometimes I even get my mistakes wrong 🙂 Mea culpa. At least it doesn't change the monstrosity of the volume in principle. Thank you for your comment. M.L.
Many thanks to all the fighters for the truth, Veritas liberabit vos
A summary of various contributions, did I understand that correctly?
If the following questions cannot be answered clearly and completely, an infection or illness with a specific or named virus can never be assumed.
The example of SARS-CoV-2
1. how has the transmissibility and pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 been established, what studies are available?
2. whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus meets the requirements laid down by Robert Koch to be designated as the causative agent of a specific disease?
Koch's four postulates must be fulfilled in their entirety in order to prove that an obligate pathogenic microorganism is the causative agent of an infectious disease.
a. The pathogen or microorganism (e.g. virus) can be transferred from the diseased individual into a pure culture (cultured).
b. It must be possible to detect the microorganism in all cases of illness with the same symptoms, but not in healthy individuals.
c. A previously healthy individual shows the same symptoms after infection with the microorganism from the pure culture as the individual from which the microorganism originally came.
d. The microorganism can be transferred from the infected and diseased individuals back into a pure culture.
3. if Koch's postulates are fulfilled, studies must prove beyond doubt that the virus (e.g. SARS-CoV-2) has been detected.
This requires a reference isolate.
For the isolate, complete purification, isolation and determination of biochemical properties and electron microscopy are required.
4. studies must be available that prove beyond doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is pathogenic and that other factors do not at least contribute to the course of the disease.
5 Only when the above conditions are fully met can we speak of an independent disease (such as CoV-19 triggered by SARS-CoV-2).
Dear Dr. Fuellmich! First of all, thank you very much for everything you have done so far and for not allowing yourself to be "bent". About me personally. I am a retired veterinarian who had my own practice in Ternitz, southern Lower Austria from 1983-2003. First mixed, then only small animals. As a result, I have a very good basic knowledge of all the topics that are so topical today. Back in March, I was just scratching my head and wondering about everything, like so many others who had an insight into the subject! But then I was curious about the reports from the specialist press as to whether the so-called. pandemic was developing in the direction of Sars1 or Mers. Without the reports from all the experts who now sit on the ACU Corona Committee, I would probably have gone crazy and doubted my sanity, as it all seemed so incomprehensible to me as a vet. I have never given up researching all the issues and am still looking for clues on how to put a stop to this gang of criminals. At my small community level, I have done my best to educate the population and still do. A few days ago, I came across a report in a forum that caught my attention. The reference page is in English and I have translated everything for myself. As far as I can tell, this site is not a "crackpot and conspiracy theorist site", the content is far too specific for that. But unfortunately it is beyond my capabilities to check what is written. But if what is written is true, it would be a bombshell that should be dropped. However, someone who is familiar with genome sequences would have to look at it first. At worst, it's just a fantasy and they've lost a bit of time researching it. Then I apologize for the annoyance. But if not, then it is of tremendous importance for your intended class action lawsuit. best regards from Austria Dr. Monika Radax https://orbisnjus.com/2020/08/26/corona-krise-primersequenz-die-who-fuer-pcr-test-verwendet-kommt-in-jeder-menschlichen-dna-vor-jeder-positiv/ and https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/04/06/bombshell-who-coronavirus-pcr-test-primer-sequence-is-found-in-all-human-dna/
I would be interested to know whether Dr. Radax has already taken up/processed this information.
In any case, I have forwarded these two links to someone who may be able to comment.
It's bad form to answer yourself, but I don't know where else to put the answer I received.
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Hello xxxxxx,
In PCR, pieces of DNA or RNA are enriched because a single piece cannot be detected. Therefore, the same piece has to be transported to the same place again and again. This takes time and the C. test is therefore also time-consuming.
I think the content of the article is realistic. My even better informed colleague wrote me the following earlier:
Hello yyyyyyyyy,
Normally, a primer substance with 18 DNA bases occurs only once every 418 times in the human genome, i.e. practically never.
However, the primer sequence in the article is the start sequence at the beginning of one of the 46 human chromosomes.
This can result in a part of the human genome being copied in the PCR and not the virus DNA.
*********
in this study
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762688
https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/938451/joi200030supp1_prod.pdf?Expires=2147483647&Signature=lw~Jaa4MMM17Qrp07S07njcJ3sciNTqijF5LrQnSYQAF16L5i-tyEfrmZxGTKcoB6BA3T-KwVU6rNMPmcUdP4cVoKQQZQsa-Gb0GEejiVjJzuQnLpRUi1ssWWOoem9ZAzAHFexZ3aAoei3R47PJewGctyIzxDisDVYjVBt~g4qG08UzZcmmUN5U7PMPH4Gvu5wlwQ39E4H5HjlTHFk~9-DBsfOrjmMECNw~padXAx3Itt6-cU1wJUuGIFU7sq6Zr0zVCGq8sWV0dclyMm4UrMGkc8cucmrQxYDX~ITlk8KRewfCzE1sV~gbAZhj~DJPadw7vis3bNNKfgOs9VzJ0fw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA
no correlation has been found between arbitrarily selected Ct value (=viral load?) and disease symptoms. Necessary Ct values in sick patients were not lower than in patients without symptoms.
The discussion about the Ct value is being held to show a way to end the laboratory pandemic without losing face for all involved: Reducing the arbitrarily set Ct value dramatically reduces the number of positive tests, meaning that the pandemic can then be declared over - even without a vaccine being available.
"The discussion about the Ct value is being held to show a way to end the laboratory pandemic without losing face for all involved: Reducing the arbitrarily set Ct value dramatically reduces the number of positive tests, which means that the pandemic can then be declared over - even without a vaccine being available."
Does this affect doctors and laboratories or politics?
Thank you on behalf of the Movement 2020 Austria ! Dr. Füllmich and his team are our greatest hope !!! Günter Arztmann ( co-founder ) with 13 700 members !!! https://www.facebook.com/groups/661129898004552
Claudia P
There's truth in those words. The only good thing about the whole thing is that people are starting to question whether the conditions that existed before Corona should continue. Many have had time to think about it. What shocked me personally is that I believed the politicians and the media all these years. It would never have occurred to me that even the elections were rigged. The square box in our living room has been off for a long time. I haven't watched the news for a very long time and the question I'm asking myself now is: this government will be gone VERY soon. If you just replace it, everything will stay as it was. Lobbieist politicians again, who only think of themselves. We'll vote in the elections again and, as always, they'll do what they want and not what the citizens want. we need a completely different political system. Germany is still not free from the occupiers. In Berlin, some people have already demonstrated in front of the embassies. They have understood. We'll see whether this Drosten and co. end up behind bars. These politicians should also be called to account. They're just stepping down, pocketing all the money and enjoying themselves. I would like to say one more thing. Corona has brought suffering to many (deliberately because of greed), it has also brought an end to the suffering of many children
That is why the querdenken initiative by Michael Ballweg is calling for the implementation of Article 146 of the Basic Law in conjunction with the applicable international law of the united nations: The constitutional people "German people" should give themselves their own constitution in self-determination and in free decision. This would require
abolish party democracy in its current form (pars = part, rule by dividing, even atomizing, population groups organized in party associations, with the effect of division and confusion),
to punish the actions of party soldiers in a fascist alliance with global corporations,
necessary to set up an additional People's Chamber alongside the professional politicians' parliament and
direct democracy on the technical basis of blockchain.
Sad but true: the majority of the "constitutional people" currently living and voting in this country prefer to continue to follow the instructions of the media, politicians and supposed scientists and adhere to the new corona religion.
Arrogance can always be cured through cognitive processes.
Ignorance, however, is not, as it is based on the malicious willful decision of not wanting to take note or on incurable stupidity.
Ignorance does not protect the non-official ignorant from punishment, because the collective punishment of the loss of prosperity will be the immediate medium-term effect of the crime of the political caste (in the fascist party democracy), which remains unpunished.
It is not only the Merkel regime that has created a system of organized irresponsibility, which can only be countered if the majority of civil servants in the administration, health authorities, schools, police, military, etc. in this country first make use of their ability to think, then activate their human conscience and finally fulfil their obligation to remonstrate.
Otherwise it remains the same:
Nothing learned hiwrzulande,
History repeats itself,
"ignorance is strength", George Orwell, 1984.
Dear "Claudia P",
I can only wonder at your judgment.
How do you arrive at the quantitative assessment "there is truth in the words"?
The phrase "Was wahres" in German means that there is presumably only a "grain of truth" in it.
As a result, you are saying that the majority of the words contained untrue information.
Of course, in the interview Dr. Fuellmich only mentions the facts that can be proven so far with regard to a claim for damages, but not the infinitely complex connections and background to these second "pandemic games".
Great! Comprehensible and very informative. Thank you very much! The well-deserved publication at news time.
Thank you for the interview. From the platform Corona-Transition.org I take the liberty of posting here:
In the New York Times, US epidemiologist Michael Mina criticizes the PCR test used in most countries: These tests would in principle only provide yes or no as possible results. This means that non-infectious people test positive and have to go into quarantine, even though they are not infecting anyone.
Mina calls for a different testing strategy that takes infectivity into account. This involves the so-called CT value (CT stands for cycle threshold).
In the PCR test, the viral DNA is amplified in cycles. The fewer cycles it takes to detect the virus, the higher the viral load and therefore the risk of infection from the donor of the sample.
The US physician - as well as the RKI - suggests a CT threshold value of 30 - 35 for a positive result. With the tests used, however, the positive signal would still light up at 40.
An example in the New York Times shows what a big difference this makes: a New York laboratory produced 794 positive tests in July. If the threshold for the Ct value there had been lowered to 35, only around half of them would have been positive. With a threshold of 30, around 70 percent of positive test results would have been eliminated.
Dear Mr. Becker,
Thank you for this valuable information! Could you give me a source? I would like to include this information in a presentation. Thank you very much!
Hello Hanna,
On September 10, the article with the title 'test, test, test' appeared on Corona-Transition.org.
At the end of the article there are 2 links, one of which leads to the decisive article from the New York Times.
https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/kritik-am-nachweis-von-sars-cov-2-mehr-weniger-anders-experten-streiten-ueber-die-richtige-corona-teststrategie_id_12388409.html
It may also be interesting for your presentation as off-topic:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/09/15/profusa-injectable-biosensors.aspx
In conclusion:
A reader of the forum here yesterday pointed out an insanely good video:
Important message from neurologist Margareta Griesz-Brisson!!!! Be sure to watch and share!!!
https://youtu.be/R5FjKIpkvIE
All the best and fight, fight I say.
Dear Jochen, unfortunately the linked video with Ms. Griesz-Brisson's message cannot be accessed, it has been "removed by YouTube because it violates the terms of use".....
More and more words are missing!
But the video is ds again, also under Vimeo, just google her name and look under videos
Mr. Langemann: Can you post this here as a video?
https://vimeo.com/461993603
On Vimeo
Hello Jochen,
I was able to find the video here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MqW44dxIkhJV/
Very interesting!
Here too, secured !
http://ausliebezumgrundgesetz.de/2020/09/27/neurologin-dr-margareta-griesz-brisson/
Thank you for this interview. The key question is and remains whether a PCR test can detect viruses. This question can also be answered in layman's terms if you take a closer look at the test:
Corona viruses do not have DNA, they are RNA viruses. The genetic information of corona viruses is stored in RNA strands. However, the PCR test only works with DNA strands. Therefore, the procedure is as follows (the description of intermediate purification operations is omitted for the sake of clarity):
In a first step, all cells and viruses contained in a test swab are "shredded". A so-called lysis is carried out, which breaks down cells and viruses into their components. The RNA fragments released in this process are then converted into DNA fragments using an enzyme (reverse transferase). (The correct name of the test is therefore RT-PCR) From the DNA fragments, those are selected from which it is assumed that the corresponding RNA fragments only occur in the Corona Sars 2 virus. These cDNA fragments (corresponding DNA) are amplified and detected using the PCR method.
Lysis destroys any viruses contained in the smear - whether infectious or not. As a result of this shredding, there is no virus left after lysis that could be detected. It is also not possible to determine where the RNA fragments in the complex lysis mixture come from. In addition, there is the question of whether the selected cDNA fragments are specific for Corona Sars 2 or whether the selected sequences can also be found in other corona viruses or whether identical DNA sequences originate from other cells present in the smear. The test therefore cannot determine whether infectious viruses are present in a smear or not. This fact should also be comprehensible to laypersons, lawyers and politicians.
Dear Ms. Fürstenwerth,
May I copy/forward your text? Where can I find this information myself?
best regards
Thomas Volkwein
You are welcome to use this text. It only describes basic knowledge of microbiology, which you can also find explained in detail in Wikipedia, an illustrative animation can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThG_02miq-4
best regards
Hauke Fürstenwerth
A class act should also be launched against all doctors who took part in the test business and who are just starting again: reopening of the "Fever Outpatient Clinic at the Friedrichshafen Trade Fair" on 23.09.2020 with a doctor's turnover guarantee of €130 per hour of service. A nice bait-and-switch offer in view of a turnover of (depending on age) €12 to €25 gross before costs and charges per treated patient per QUARTER in regular practice operations!
Accomplice? Joint liability?
As an employee of a freelance general practice, I would like to report the following observation from March 2020.
In March, certain patients were sent for a nasopharyngeal swab with subsequent evaluation by a
RNA test for SARS-CoV-2 from Roche
They had the smear test carried out in a so-called fever outpatient clinic (business model of the Baden-Württemberg Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians):
1) a patient coerced by her legally authorized employer (public service) and
2) a patient coerced by his anxious wife,
Both patients around 60 years young, each after a previous sudden onset of influenza with very high fever for days in waves.
(All other patients in our practice were reassured by other means, without testing, and were given sick leave if necessary).
The laboratory results were then
in a copy of our practice because we have been appointed as a family doctor, and,
because the tests were positive, a second copy was sent to the responsible health authority,
with the consequence that those tested were ordered to quarantine and undergo official health surveillance.
After two weeks we, as general practitioners, were forced by the employers, via our patients, to certify that the people were (again) healthy and able to work.
Damage incurred? Persons injured?
The patient under public law continued to receive her full salary as a civil servant.
The employee aged 60 received 100% continued payment of salary.
Only their employers and we, the tax and contribution payers, and we, the doctors' surgeries, who had to spend an extreme amount of time explaining to politically and media-disinformed and panicked patients that a virus has no life of its own and is rendered harmless by our immune system, were thus harmed. Each of us in the doctor's office has worked at least 200 hours of overtime, for which the organized criminals have not yet been compensated.
Liable persons?
Every laboratory doctor and scientist must know that a PCR test never detects a disease, not even an infection. Instead, an infection is determined clinically. (Of course, the first thing we did in March and April was to measure the fever of every patient with cold symptoms).
Our medium-sized laboratory, which has always provided excellent and legally sound advice, had therefore expressly stated in its laboratory findings that the result of the RNA test merely represents a presumption about the presence of a sequence, but says nothing definite about whether the person on whom the throat and nose swab was taken has been or is currently infected with a virus and/or is ill and/or has formed antibodies.
We have explained this clearly to all our patients and expressly advised them not to undergo any tests. Every GP should be able to read and understand these findings.
However, doctors in private practice are allowing themselves to become accomplices in the PCR conspiracy, whether out of ignorance, financial need or greed.
I would also like to point out that the German Medical Association is the direct legal successor to the Reich Medical Association, which was appropriated by the National Socialists at the time, withdrew the licenses of Jewish doctors and whose ("Aryan") forced members actively participated in the "extermination of unworthy life" without being punished.
Even today, forced members of the professions who are not loyal to the line are still directly persecuted with Nazi injustice.
Finally, a quote from the assessor of his state medical association from a social court (recourse) process (1980s last century) of the health insurance funds against a practicing doctor who had been accused (final judgement "wrongly") of billing fraud with a certain, allegedly not provided ENT service (quote):
"We've always had such trouble with your grandfather."
Resolution: The grandfather of the doctor in private practice had been mayor and a declared opponent of the NSDAP and, after being abducted and tortured, only escaped secret execution by the local Gestapo henchmen in the very last days of the war by a stroke of luck. After the war, he was immediately re-elected mayor of his town.
Hello Ms. Fürstenwerth, I work in the field of electronic components and thanks to your great description I can understand the PCR test and the process.
On the Internet, however, you can find a report from correctiv.org about Mr. Drosten's test and statements from laboratories claiming that this PCR test is almost 100% safe with the statement of an infection.
I am now unsettled here.
Best regards
Thomas Maihöfer
The lying media and censorship agency correctiv.org presents itself as independent, but only engages in opinion making for the regime. Correctiv was founded and financed by the SPD-affiliated Brost Foundation and is partly funded from abroad by left-wing lobby groups such as the Open Society Foundations (2018: 85,676.95 euros; 2017: 159,022.93 euros) from George Soros, the Adessium Foundation from the Netherlands (2018: 70.000 euros; 2017: 38,000 euros), Google's Digital News Initiative DNI (2018: 100,000 euros, 2017: 270,000 euros); Facebook (2017: 105,000 euros) and the Omidyar Network Foundation of the Iranian-born eBay founder Pierre Omidyar (2018: 640,051.24 euros). Omidyar is the founder of the left-wing US news portal The Intercept, which repeatedly criticizes Trump's policy against the Iranian "terror regime", and works closely with George Soros.
In addition, the regime in Germany also gives Correctiv taxpayers' money.
It is no surprise that Correctiv claims that the PCR test would allegedly reliably detect an infection with the "novel coronavirus".
With the appearance of an independent institution, Correctiv and other "fact finders" are always positioned to repeat any regime lies.
If tomorrow the regime claims that there was 5 meters of snow everywhere in Germany this summer, then Correctiv will also write an article confirming this in full.
And of course there are also laboratories that claim that the PCR test detects infections.
In these times, there are some laboratories loyal to the regime that are making all the big bucks.
With truthful statements about the PCR test, they would immediately destroy their PCR test business.
If you want to know more about the PCR test and the associated lying, you should take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSsTCjbNPF0 -> Covid Testing: Bad Science Worse Policy
Dear colleagues, thank you very much for this extremely informative interview. It is incredibly encouraging to hear that something is moving. I am stunned by what is happening in this country and even more so by what we as citizens are allowing to happen to us. A bunch of lemmings waddling towards the abyss ... with masks on, after all. As I travel a lot in an international context: is there an interview with Mr. Füllmich in English? If so, where can I find them?
These are exciting times, let's stay tuned.
Best regards
Kerstin Krause
A wonderfully clear presentation, many thanks for that.
Perhaps it should be added for the sake of completeness that with every swab, enough material is also taken for a DNA test?
Can you please comment again on Drosten's statement regarding the impending lawsuit.
He says :
The clear majority of experts consider PCR tests to be a reliable method for detecting an infection with Sars-CoV2 viruses. Drosten clearly contradicted the critics in an NDR podcast: "The diagnostic laboratories in Germany work with certified tests in accordance with the in-vitro diagnostics guideline. They work under a continuous quality control system that completely rules out all these speculations by some conspiracy theorists. Everything is checked in the system." The RKI did not wish to comment on the allegations against Lothar Wieler.
What does in vitro mean? Why is he talking about certified tests now ?
Several hundred tests are in use worldwide. The manufacturers of the tests evaluate their tests themselves. The tests are not reviewed by regulatory authorities:
https://www.johner-institut.de/blog/regulatory-affairs/corona-virus-ivdr/
"As long as the manufacturers do not declare the tests as self-testing (self-application by laypersons), but intend them for professional use, they may, in accordance with Annex III of the IVD Directive, carry out the conformity assessment procedure without the involvement of a Notified Body, i.e. declare conformity themselves.
This makes it relatively easy for manufacturers based in the EU under the IVD Directive (98/79/EC) to place a test for 2019-nCoV on the market."
Thank you very much.
As I am a layman, I am asking for the last time:
It is one thing to market the test, but the fact that these 'own brands' are not infected is another.
remains a fact ?
That's how it is!
Lysis shreds all viruses present - whether infectious or not. Selected genome sequences are identified; these do not allow any conclusions to be drawn about infections or diseases.
The enzyme "reverse transferase" must be correctly named as
"Reverse transcriptase".
Cf. differences between transcription (lat. transcribere = to transcribe)
and transfer (lat. transferre = to transfer) in order to fulfill the central dogma of the
molecular biology (postulated by Francis H. C. Crick [1958]), to do justice to
e.g. synthesis of a specific protein as a two-step process.
Process by means of
Transcription and translation (= transfer)
Absolutely, Mr. Drosten, Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Wieler belong in prison!!!
The coronavirus scandal will become a roller that will roll around the world.
You forgot Mr. Spahn, he also belongs in prison.
I agree with you. On the basis of § 81 StGB: High treason against the federal government
(1) Anyone who undertakes to use force or the threat of force to
1. impair the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany or
2. to change the constitutional order based on the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany,
is punishable by life imprisonment or imprisonment for not less than ten years.
(2) In less serious cases, the penalty shall be imprisonment from one to ten years.
As I understand it, the StGB does not assume that it is permissible to change the constitutional order based on the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany for a short time or for one year. The law also does not ask about the reasons why someone undertakes to change the constitutional order. Loud reasons can at least lead to the assumption of a "less serious case". There is evidence in many cases that a threat of violence has been made and that direct violence has been used.
Thank you, Mr. Langemann, for your excellent factual work / clarification of the media world. You really helped me a lot by providing the work of Mr. Cohn (BIM).
My request: since my research on the recording of the CDU meeting from May 2019 mentioned by Reiner Füllmich with the presence of Mr. Drosten & Co.
has not yet yielded any results. Where can I find this recording? Perhaps you could post it on your website?
Thank you for your efforts.
Best regards
Gisela krohn
https://www.cducsu.de/veranstaltungen/globale-gesundheit-staerken-un-nachhaltigkeitsziel-umsetzen
https://www.cducsu.de/veranstaltungen/globale-gesundheit-st-rken-un-nachhaltigkeitsziel-umsetzen/referenten
Presumably he meant the "Strengthening Global Health" congress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arhEa2JlvH0
LG
Maybe here: https://www.cducsu.de/veranstaltungen/globale-gesundheit-st-rken-un-nachhaltigkeitsziel-umsetzen/referenten
https://www.cducsu.de/veranstaltungen/referenten/prof-dr-christian-drosten
I found it when I simply searched Google for CDU meeting Mai Tedros.
Here is the long version (over 3 hours):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arhEa2JlvH0
And here is a summary (approx. 45 minutes) for an overview of the most important contents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHsP8Lii-gY
First of all, thank you for posting the two links.
Then - I listened to the second one ... and heard nothing but three quarters of an hour of absolutely meaningless self-congratulatory drivel.
Even the (very few) passages from which one *could* construct clues are so vague that it would take a lot of imagination.
Anyone who has ever been professionally involved in politics (not as an elected office holder, but as an employee) will probably agree with me.
Sorry, but if those were the "highlights" of the 3 hours or more, then that's nothing but acoustic garbage.
MANY THANKS to Mr. Langemann and Dr. Reiner Füllmich and all other informants here!
It is reassuring to hear such expertise for the first time in a long time.....
and that CORONA will soon come to an end, thanks to people like Mr. Langemann and Dr. Reiner Füllmich!
It is frightening how much the corrupt and influential economic and political structures in Germany have increased in the meantime.