The election to the 20th Bundestag of the Federal Republic of Germany is expected to take place on September 26, 2021. This election can already be described as historically significant.
In the short video below, you can see the importance of opinion polls in elections and what the social scientist and Nobel Prize winner Herbert A. Simon said about opinion polls back in 1954.
You can currently find a poll on the party landscape on the homepage. Natürlich erhebt diese Umfrage nicht den Anspruch auf Repräsentativität. Diese Abstimmung kann nicht mehr als ein erstes Fiebermessen sein. Wenn Sie diese Abstimmung allerdings mit Ihrer Wahrnehmung in Ihrem persönlichen, sozialen Umfeld abgleichen, bekommt die Statistik für Sie vielleicht doch eine kleine Bedeutung. Gerade mit Blick auf die Werte der „Altparteien“.
After the immediate launch of the survey, the party leaders of the still very young parties contacted me „dieBasis“ and „WiR2020“. Frank Roedel und Wolfgang Romberg. Roedel erhofft sich im Frühjahr eine 5-Stellige Mitgliederzahl und Letzterer fragte mich, warum „WiR“ nicht gelistet sei, unterstellte mir in seinem E-Mail an mich, ich sei „gekauft“.
A deadly virus is located on every door handle, a conspiracy is suspected under every toilet seat. This is the truly exhausting spirit of the times. But at the same time, it shows the deep insecurity of German society these days.
Ich schrieb Romberg, die Listung von „dieBasis“ ist „viel profaner“ zustande gekommen, als er mir zuschwurbelte. Es gibt einige neue „Bewegungen“ und Parteien. Ja, viele hätte ich aufnehmen müssen, auch jene Gruppierungen, die sich noch auf Petrischalen-Niveau befinden. Pars pro toto war mein Leitmotiv, da es zunächst nur um eine politische Fieberkurve geht. Exemplarisch für die „Neuen“ habe ich „dieBasis“ ausgewählt. Bei einer weiteren Umfrage zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt, so schrieb ich ihm, nehme ich gerne auch WiR und weitere Parteien auf.
Wolfgang Romberg's prompt counter-proposal, in a „Schachzug“ doch nachträglich „dieBasis“- Auswahl-Option, in eine allgemeinere „Anti-Corona-Maßnahmen-Partei“ umzuformulieren.
Es ist offensichtlich, schon in dieser noch jungen Partei, wird das Spiel mit dem Feuer der „politischen Unaufrichtigkeit“ gespielt.
From a new party, which is being launched with the slogan „Unzufriedenheit?“ voters, people are likely to expect that the political staff will not be exposed to the press. „Schachzüge“ suggests. Above all, it does not encourage people to simply change the selection option in an ongoing poll in which thousands of votes have already been cast. In other words, to relabel votes that have been cast.
Especially not with a party that also makes another big promise in big letters on its homepage:
„WiR2020: Ausgewogen, gerecht und fair.“
Ich verbuche die Erfahrung mit dieser Partei mal unter „noch lernendes Führungspersonal“. Sicher bin ich mir dabei aber nicht. Aber jede andere Erklärung wäre auch eher erschütternd und besäufniserregend.
But one thing is already certain. The possible reorganization of the political situation in the country will be even more exciting than previously assumed.
Editor's note: You may be reading this article at a time when the survey has already ended.
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The Romberg case.
As the state chairman of WiR2020 Lower Saxony, it was with great dismay that I perceived the derailments of our federal chairman Romberg towards you, Mr. Langemann. Apart from the dishonor, I thought it was a bottomless stupidity. Federal chairman? He is not. He was elected federal chairman on 21.08.2020 in an election procedure that did not comply with the law. He later affirmed on oath that there had been a postal vote. But this was probably not the case. Whether this is just fraud or perjury would have to be clarified by the competent jurisdiction. In the meantime, there was another extraordinary federal party conference that did not comply with the law, at which Romberg tried in vain to legitimize himself. This resulted in a legitimacy crisis that caused five state associations or their executive committees or organizing teams (for the foundation) to resign. In the meantime, Romberg has repeatedly claimed that Die Basis and in particular prominent members of Die Basis receive financial support from Reichsbürger. Mind you, without being willing or able to provide evidence. We, the Lower Saxony regional association, were founded at the beginning of February and until recently Romberg tried to torpedo this foundation, as we were very clearly in opposition to him. I in particular became an irritant for him, so I offered to resign as part of a mediation process if he would recognize the Lower Saxony regional association in return. It looks like he won't be able to prevent the sixth regional association. On the contrary, we have decided to put up resistance and rid the party of such machinations. At least for the Lower Saxony regional association - and for others too, of course - I can say that Romberg is not like us. We are working to ensure that he can no longer act as our chairman. It's not easy, but we want to show that internal party democracy can function according to law and order. Surprisingly, the overwhelming majority of our active members do not want to simply give up. We are probably not interested in superficial success, but simply in showing that it is possible.
Das Demokratieverständnis von Wir2020 kann man immer gut erkennen, wenn es „Konflikte“ gibt.
Auch wenn diese Konflikte nur darin bestehen, dass ein engagierter Kandidat für die Landtagswahl einige Fragen an die „Parteioberen“ stellt.
Instead of answering them, discussing them and possibly admitting mistakes, disagreeable fellow party members are simply ignored.
The next step would then be expulsion from the party.
https://www.swp.de/suedwesten/staedte/hechingen/landtagswahl-zollernalbkreis-partei-_wir2020_-stellt-albstaedter-kandidaten-andreas-steiner-ins-abseits-55345893.html
Gibt es über dieses Vorkommnis parteininterne Diskussionen unter den Kandidaten? Nein. Und wenn einer der Kandidaten hier eine Frage stellen oder den Link zu diesem Artikel posten würde, würde der Link gelöscht und der Kandidat das nächste Mal ebenfalls „stummgeschaltet“ werden.
I've experienced it all.
WIR2020 ist längst gekapert. Deswegen ist Bodo Schiffmann ja raus. Ich räume „dieBasis“ kein anderes Schicksal ein.
There's still too much uncertainty with the new parties, so I'll wait and see. I'm voting for the AFD, I like the program and the party has
The party has shown itself to be a party that stands by the people in times of crisis.
That's exactly how I see it. The AFD is the only opposition party that can put a stop to the old parties to a certain extent. Splitting the votes between micro parties costs the AfD opposition power. And, as Mr Langemann correctly analyzed, these new micro-parties often have a problem that is similar to that of the old parties: they claim to be in possession of the absolute truth. The AfD is also in the process of finding itself here and there, but it also has many experienced people in the necessary positions at its disposal.
Well, it seems that Wir2020 is now disassembling itself ...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eg9yjrha4apybw5/Wir2020%20Brandenburg%20Schreiben%20an%20die%20Mitglieder.pdf?dl=0
The formation of these parties will lead to a dillution of the AFD vote share, as many AFD voters will feel attracted to these corona parties. At the end of the day, this will mean that no party will receive the necessary share of the vote to be able to participate in a future government. Because that is something that many do not take into account: Only the participation of an alternative party in government will be able to influence the current political course. If the AFD (or another alternative party) remains in opposition, it will be RRG/SRG full speed ahead!
Hoert auf damit 10 weitere Parteien zu gruenden und konzentriert euch bei der Wahl auf eine einzige, alternative Partei(welche auch immer). Es kommt mir schon so vor, als wenn die Altparteien die Gruendung solcher „Alternativen“ sogar unterstuetzen wuerden.
Best regards from NL,
M.
Thanks Charles Smith, Donald Trump just said something similar. He's not going to form a party, as has been rumored. This man knows how the game works. Only those who have no idea want the umpteenth division.
I agree with 100%.
Fullest agreement.
The more parties there are to be founded, the more likely it is that the old parties will be lucky enough to divide everything up among themselves again.
But, as we saw in the last parliamentary elections, the AfD didn't even get a deputy position, even though it was entitled to one. Hopefully things will be different this time and the parties will treat each other more reasonably. You just have to respect each other's different political interests and views. And I wish that the discussions would focus more on linguistic issues, like Strauß and Wehner. That all this gender talk stops. It costs money and the real political work is left undone.
The return of disobedience | By Kollektiv GUI
WIR2020? Ist das nicht die Partei mit dem „Parteiidentitätshüter“? (Ja, die haben inzwischen die Satzung geändert, aber man erkennt an so was, wer das Gründungspersonal ist).
The Corona constitutional breach - An article by lawyer Friedemann Willemer.
https://kenfm.de/m-pathie-dirk-pohlmann/
I think the debate between DieBasis and Wir2020 is rather superfluous. Both parties have a different character, but are firmly anchored in grassroots democracy. Wir2020 has built a formal structure, dieBasis has reestablished fundamental approaches. After the popularity of the spontaneous predecessor initiative a year ago, Wir2020 was immediately and sustainably massively sabotaged, obviously with almost unlimited resources from who knows where. theBasis still seems to be classified as harmless idealists, the moment they start to become dangerous, they will come under fire in a similar way, Wir2020 is already quite through and through this fight in public relations but now quite behind.
The common goal is to restore the constitutional sovereignty and a political, legal and media structure that contributes to making politics for the people. The motto can be: march separately, strike together. Make no mistake, this will not be a walk in the park; there will be more ugliness to stifle these initiatives. Merkel and her cohorts are unscrupulous power professionals, this will require considerable stamina, we cannot do without any fellow fighters. Internal infighting is out of place here; we must use our respective strengths and cooperate reliably if necessary, even like the hedgehog couple.
Oppositionen in Deutschland – mensch erinnere sich an die 60er und 70er Jahre und nicht nur an diese – haben sich oft gegenseitig bis auf`s Messer bekämpt, obgleich in vielen Fällen, gar nicht soweit von einander entfernt…Es dominierten ideologische Feindseligkeiten denn strategisches Handeln. Häufig handelte es sich um ideologisches Schattenboxen. Es wurde Humanität, Emanzipation, soziale Gerechtigkeit und vieles mehr propagiert – radikal im Inhalt, autoritär und arrogant in der Form. Theorie und Praxis lagen dabei himmelweit auseinander. Menschen die nur ideologisch für bestimmte Inhalte kämpfen und diese selbst nicht leben, sich diesen nicht verpflichtet fühlen, sind unglaubwürdig. Und es stellt hierbei die Frage nach den Motiven ihres Handelns. Insbesondere in der Politik sind Narzismuss, Hybris und Dominanz – eben „skrupellose Machtprofis“ – stark vertreten.
Hoffen wir, dass die neuen Parteien nicht in ähnliche Fahrwasser geraten wie die „alten“. Die Rekrutierungsprozesse und Homogenisierungseinflüsse des politischen Systems sind nicht zu unterschätzen.
Dear Kassandra, thank you very much, you absolutely express my thoughts.
Thank you very much for your journalistic and entertaining work.
Citizens who do not understand the principles of democracy as such are inevitably blind to the way regime politics is applied.
Anyone who knows the differences between democracy and dictatorship should no longer feel comfortable and secure and lose confidence in elections.
Parliament is superfluous. Opposition does not work due to a lack of balance. The self-appointed leader decides - possibly also under external control - and communicates with the fathers of the country on serious decisions to suppress and bend the law and de facto governs without parliament. The powerlessness of parliament is worrying in this respect, should cause fear and force people to think and act with consideration. The people have the power, but they are powerless.
Many people will wake up as soon as many loans burst, when short-time work turns into unemployment and Hartz4. Many thousands of companies are actively delaying bankruptcy, which will fall on our shoulders in the near future.
True, but I think it's more likely that the evil virus is to blame, the government had to make a decision somehow and just wanted to protect us all...
Carsten has accurately and well formulated my opinion on current politics.
I would also like to add that this corona policy has destroyed and continues to destroy much of society.
In many marriages, major arguments have arisen over this issue, and children and grandchildren have become estranged due to differing opinions. Friends have been lost in the social network! We were no longer allowed to meet up with family and friends (carefree) if we adhered to the guidelines. In some cases, the legal requirements were followed - not out of conviction - but out of fear of the high fines.
Club work was destroyed. I myself could no longer meet my tennis friends and chess colleagues - neither to play nor to chat! Some of my tennis colleagues are already over 75 or 80 years old (I'm 75) - who knows if they can still play after the long break, as their mobility may have declined.
In any case, the collateral damage is immeasurably high, not only in economic terms but also in social terms. In my opinion, much more harmful than the threatening coronavirus, which at no time justified the declaration of a pandemic!
Alfred Hügel
My skat and other card games were banned. My wife couldn't go to the choir or the women's meeting.
Dear Mr. Hügel,
diese Plandemie ist ein Menschenversuch globalen Asumaßes. Es gibt genug Quellen, die die Behauptung einer diesbezüglichen „Verschwörungstheorie“ widerlegen und ad absurdum führen. Bedauerlich ist, wie viele Menschen ungebremst in dieses Experiment reinrauschen und wie sie von der jeweiligen, hier: Bundesregierung, verraten und verkauft werden. Dennoch ist gut, dass viele die wahren Ausmaße nicht ermessen können, um den sofortigen Herztod als Schockreaktion zu vermeiden.
For me, the whole thing is far less tragic, not in terms of the consequences, which affect us equally, but in terms of the preparation and response options. That's why I naturally understand in detail what Dr. Reiner Füllmich & Partner, for example, said in an interview with Mr. Markus Langemann about the class action regarding the PCR test and know the complexity of the matter.
Please realize that we are in the middle of a war! „This is unconventional warfare at its finest. It’s run like an insurgency…“ wird ein hochrangiger US General zitiert. Ich habe vor über 10 Jahren zumindest in meinem Umkreis empfohlen, sich auf exakt das Szenario vorzubereiten, das wir jetzt erleben. Denn es wird schlimmer werden, die Zügel sind längst noch nicht angezogen. Das Regime soll viel straffer, feingliedriger und dauerhaft werden.
Anyone who believes they can counter this with parties is at least playing David against Goliath. And Goliath has many advantages. Edward Snowden has outlined some of them.
Zutiefst verstörend ist das Bekenntnis akademisch Gebildeter, der so genannten Bildungselite, bis jetzt nichts gewusst und bemerkt zu habern, weil sie „politisch ungebildet“, besser gesagt: politisch desinteressiert, seien. Die Schieflage, in der diese Welt, diese Erde, seit langer Zeit steckt, erzwingt ein solches Interesse aus immanenter Notwendigkeit. Dennoch gibt es keinen direkten Zusammenhang zwischen Intellekt, Intelligenz und Erkenntnisfähigkeit.
People go about their business while life passes them by and you get the impression that they are mentally wandering in a deep, dark valley. One wonders whether politics is taking place in a parallel universe, because politics is the instrument for setting the framework for shaping life. Politics is the question: How do we want to live? Not taking an interest in it or leaving it to others seems criminal and shows: „Souveränität ist mir nicht wichtig, ich will und ich brauche sie nicht. Ich schaue auch gar nicht erst anch, ob sie denn wirklich vorhanden ist.“. This may sound harsh, but it is honest in view of the extent of the associated deficits in imagination (capacity).
In manchen Momenten erschreckt es zu realisieren, dass die Hauptgefahr nicht diese Politik ist, sondern die unwissende, fehlglaubende Masse, die aufgrund ihres Fehl- oder Falschwissens aus Überzeugung katastrophale Zustände manifestiert und eine Änderung torpediert. Wer sich fragt, wie der Holocaust „sein konnte“, findet darin handfeste Ursachen. Es bleibt die Frage: Inwieweit ist ein geistig Behinderter / Gehirngewaschener straffähig?
We2020 is probably not even a real party in the sense of the Political Parties Act, see the comments of the original founder (name forgotten)
But why was LKR not mentioned? It would be really interesting to see how they fare in relation to the afd...
Dear Mr. Langemann,
I am not someone who knows about contact with the 4th estate. I just know something about contact with the 1st force. And if the 1st violence is also the first, and the 4th violence is only the 4th, then you can also apply less and less simplistic world views, which then requires respect for the other player. Of course, you have to remain cautious, because the 4th force is only the 4th force and should be treated with caution, especially in this dissatisfaction.
Ich muss mich für Ihre Arbeit bedanken. Ich sehe zwar nur einen Teil, aber was ich soweit sehe, ist durchaus informativ. Sie tragen ja auch zur Heiterkeit bei, wenn Sie vom Schwurbeln sprechen. Ich muss das irgendwann auch noch lernen. Und auch „besäufniserregend“. Wirklich sehr witzig und passend. Vielen Dank.
I know both parties quite well and the people mentioned are not unknown to me either. However, I don't want to say that I haven't had the opportunity to get to know them in this way, especially with regard to Mr. Romberg, or that I should have gotten to know them better. It is indeed quite astonishing how much dissatisfaction probably played a role here and led to immodest, if not wrong, actions.
You could have been a little more relaxed about it. Your survey alone won't change the course of the world. Rather perhaps the ten thousandth member of dieBasis? After all, a whole series of parties have emerged in this ferment and shake-up. So much unprofessional politicking. And party structuring. But who knows, maybe something will actually emerge from this primordial soup of chaos?
After our Thuringia fiasco, we know that massive opposition parties are not effective in changing anything politically. Right? Sometimes it really is a virus. Something very small that penetrates and permeates. And ultimately changes the shape of the big visible thing.
In this respect: To all guardians of freedom out there. DieBasis and WIR2020 want to make democracy better. I very much hope that they are infected through and through with this democracy virus. And that the R-value will be so severe that even the smallest initial stocks of this D-plague, this cursed D, will be wiped out.
Just for the sake of argument.
Yours sincerely
Antonin Möller
Who is this so-called 4th power now? Is it the media, is it the inflationary trained security forces? Incidentally, Chile's former reign of terror was run by so-called security forces.
It does make sense that we (should) have a sophisticated democracy whose three powers are united, and which check and remind each other of their compatibility with democracy!
Priorities can of course be set and served individually by people - where they are committed - privately or professionally, wherever they can get involved.
I think it is unwise to grant one power more power than the other - that is the only reason we have the problem.
The press does have power, but it should not be granted any power, because it has to be one thing above all: free!
I consider considerations about the fourth, fifth and sixth powers to be reactionary.
As for the press/media, anyone with attention can develop resiliens - even without any alternative media, anyone with a reasonably good memory should realize, thanks to the inconsistency, cheap camera work and the like, that the soup is steaming here.
I used to believe that memory disorders only appear after a dictatorship - but now and here we can see that they can already occur pandemically during a dictatorship.
As far as the security forces are concerned, I am reluctant to be regimented by (not without exception, but as a general rule) half-wits who do a job where mommy finally doesn't have to pay for the gym and you can shout your way through life with two-word sentences.
But even friendly and understanding unfortunately not a real option.
And as far as some new parties are concerned, you should take a close look, because among the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Furthermore, citizens' movements are needed here, from which the Greens emerged at the time, and which then became immobile under the Greens.
We already have enough parties - and if we did, then please lower the 5 percent hurdle so that there would be more diversity again - but I think we have other worries right now!
Andreas Popp from Wissensmanufaktur does an excellent job of explaining what parties are, and you can tell from the Latin root of the word. Time and again, it turns out that very few people are concerned with this. They want solutions, and they want them quickly. When the shoe pinches, there is no time for in-depth analysis. That is why parties will remain what they have always been: Splinter groups, parts of the whole.
I keep my fingers crossed for all people who are trying to make a difference in political parties. And to stand up to the much more experienced ones. Against secret service infiltration anyway. Founding a party and ignoring the fact that the existing parties in Germany only exist because foreign interests allow and control them, as Germany has never been fully sovereign since 1945, is not very sensible in my opinion. At the very least, every single new member would then have to be above averagely (historically) educated for whatever reason.
Ich sehe für Deutschland auf absehbare Zeit keine Chance, auch wegen der Bevölkerungsstruktur. Auch kam die Sache mit der „volkseigenen“ Verfassung zur Sprache.
You have a gift for observation! You obviously also notice de-ja vu. You could easily add a thousand more points here. The Germans should actually be the first in the world to expose the plandemic fraud. Instead, they have allowed over 12 months of Merkel/Spahn/Wieler/Drosten/Lauterbach servitude to reach a level where scientists are turning away in disgust because science is being raped. Science is being raped in front of everyone's eyes and the acceptance of the stupid, demonstrably untrue, even punishable, is being enforced, while the Third Estate lives out masochism.
Above all, the damage to and for children is immense. Nevertheless, nothing happens, it is accepted. And after Spahn messed up with his mask orders, they now have to be worn by the people and made compulsory under the OwiG, even though they are harmful and most likely even chemically toxic. Outcry from the population? No response.
Does anyone believe that a population that acts this way on these issues will act differently just because it is then a party? This nonsense must be called nonsense.
D'àccord! Movements such as Querdenken or AZK are currently much more promising. A different awareness needs to emerge among the population. This will not happen through new parties, not through supposed swarm intelligence. If I pour dirty water into a bottle, it doesn't become clean(er) when I refill the bottle.
Danke für den vorstehenden Text. Ich habe auch sicherlich keine überdurchschnittliche Bildung. Bezogen auf die Vermutung: „Zumindest müsste dann jedes einzelne neue Mitglied aus welchen Gründen auch immer überdurchschnittlich (historisch) gebildet sein.“
To conclude the parable with the dirty water, I would like to share another life experience. If you fill a bottle with dirty, stirred water and then leave it to stand, the dirt will settle to the bottom. Now carefully pour it into a new bottle without letting it settle. The result is dirt in the old bottle and clean water in the new bottle. The loss of volume is so small and therefore negligible.
Your experience may apply to conditions in which water and dirt can be easily removed. It's difficult with fats and oils. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that simple decanting will solve political problems. That's what they did in 1989. And even if your experiment succeeds, you will always transfer nano/small particles. We will see the result in the form of Mrs. Merkel & Co. or at European level.
Dear Anynomus, in the newly formed parties, new awareness is also emerging as people act and implement new models. These people should also be allowed to come from the old system and not be able to implement the 100 % solution immediately. I think it's primitive to compare something new with an old existing one and not even know what the new parties are doing and how. The new parties have emerged from the fact that the old parties are no longer accepted. The future will show whether we manage to shape the new properly. .
I hold Mr. Popp in high esteem, but this eternal whining about the current parties is simply boring and unbearable. When he really presents new, viable concepts, he is credible - regardless of whether they are parties in a new form or other constructs.
I agree on all points except your last paragraph, because there are MANY who express their feeling that what is happening should not happen, that it is reprehensible injustice and in many cases, such as the expropriation of small businesses and the traumatization of children, is simply criminal. In fact, coercion is totally superfluous - as the example of Sweden shows.
But they have NOBODY in the government to represent them and put a stop to it. It is high time that this changed.
It is a pity that you did not also contact our BW regional association.
Next time then?
Kind regards
Sabine Mayer-Paris
Candidate in constituency Stuttgart IV and constituency 09 Nürtingen
National executive committee of the PARTEI WIR2020
Baden-Württemberg state association
sabine.mayer-paris@wir2020bw.de
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I actually find the survey very interesting. Of course, it's not even remotely representative of the German population, but perhaps to some extent of the group of people who visit your site.
If one assumes that these people are very critical of the German government's coronavirus policy (probably not too bold an assumption), then one could draw the following interesting conclusions in my opinion:
(1) None of the opposition parties, with the exception of the AfD, can benefit in any way from the dissatisfaction with the government's actions - on the contrary.
(2) Vielleicht ist es zu früh vom Ende der AfD zu sprechen: immerhin schafft sie es hier, den Unmut zu einem Drittel „abzuschöpfen“ und erzielt damit ein um den Faktor 3 höheres Ergebnis, als auf Bundesebene zu erwarten ist. Dabei ist unklar, ob die AfD als tatsächliche Alternative gesehen wird oder nur als Ausdruck von Protest.
(3) Die Gruppe der Nichtwähler ist relativ klein, aber unter den Seitenbesuchern immer noch eine häufiger Wahl als alle der „altgedienten“ Parteien (zusammen).
(4) Perhaps it is not surprising that the grassroots have the highest proportion of votes cast here. The question is, of course, what makes this new (largely unknown?) party so attractive? In any case, it is catching on more than abstention and a pure protest vote via the AfD.
In addition to the selective background of the site visitors, it is of course also possible that certain groups use networks to encourage people to vote for their party. This also distorts the result in terms of a representative picture of opinion among site visitors.
Dear Mr. Langemann!
Thank you for your work! Please work towards bringing the opposition together!
If there are several new small parties, they run the risk of not making the 5% hurdle!!!!
I believe that the opposition should also openly profess Christian values in order to be successful.
And it should be prepared to work with ANY democratically elected party if there is enough "overlap" - here I am thinking in particular of the AfD!
H. Neuhof
Die gleichen Strukturen, die man bei den etablierten Medien kritisiert, zeigen sich hier sehr deutlich im Kommentarbereich. Eine Meinungspluralität ist wichtig, jedoch sehe ich hier auch schon diese Anflüge von Diskreditierungen, die eine offene Diskussion schwierig machen. Daher sollte man es auch aushalten müssen, dass jeder seine eigene Sicht der Dinge äußert. Das hier ist kein Wahlkampf zwischen den Parteien „Wir2020“ oder „die Basis“. Das emotionale Prinzip scheint hier auch wieder über die Vernunft zu siegen. Das ist doch gerade das, was man in dieser Zeit nicht mehr möchte.
This is with fundamental Defiziten gemeint, vor deren Beseitigung eine Befassung mit inhaltlichen Aspekten einer Neuausrichtung dieses Landes aussichtslos erscheint. Es sind jene Gründe, weshalb „Altparteien“ und andere Strukturen Bestand haben (können), weshalb der Lockdown bis heute aufrecht erhalten werden kann (Menschen fördern und sichern diesen durch ihre Haltung; man ist eher bereit zum Krieg als zum Diskurs [trifft ebenso auf Unternehmen zu, die Impfung zum Parameter ihrer Geschäftsbeziehung machen]) und worin sich extremes Kurzzeitgedächtnis darstellt.
Widersprüche und Logikbrüche werden nicht wahrgenommen oder als „normal“ partizipiert. Wo sie auftreten, sollen sie dem Bulldozer weichen, nicht dem Intellekt. Journalisten betätigen sich eher als Einpeitscher, Aufseher und Scharfrichter bis in die Bundespressekonferenz. Der Regierungssprecher verkündet hahnebüchenen Unfug, die Kanzlerin lügt sehr wahrscheinlich. Von offizieller Seite wird die Einstellung jedweder kritischen Sicht auf Regierungshandeln erzwungen. Wer sich nicht beugt, fliegt, hat mit Überwachung oder wirtschaftlichen Sanktionen zu rechnen.
Das ehemals „normale“ Leben ist vollkommen außer Tritt, Synchronizität Fehlanzeige und Chaos gewollt. Kein ernsthaftes Krisenmanagement, das den Namen verdient, agiert derart und offenkundig inkompetent wie die Bundesregierung. Die Behauptung oder Annahme, dies sei tatsächlich Inkompetenz, nicht etwa Agenda wie nachzulesen bei WEF, UN Agenda 2020/2030, ID 2020, verorte ich in Richtung Realitätsverweigerung.
Anyone who demands intellect is threatened - sometimes with death. Doctors practising their medical oath are terrorized with practice searches. Lawyers are denied access to court for no reason and unlawfully. Police officers and other civil servants, such as teachers, are suspended from duty because they take part in demonstrations, expose grievances or are involved in civil society in their free time. Contrary to clear internal findings, the lateral thinking movement is being defamed externally as right-wing extremist and anti-constitutional. By a government that presides over a supposedly democratic constitutional state. That is sheer mockery.
Julian Assange soll eine Warnung an die ganze Welt sein: „Wer sich uns in den Weg stellt, ist – über kurz oder lang – tot.“ Es geht nicht um Meinungs- und Pressfreiheit. Es geht um die Ansage, dass ein Entgegenstellen wider gewisse Interessen seit 2020 keiner rechtsstaatlichen Justiz mehr unterfällt und so genannte Grundrtechte de facto außer Kraft sind. Man fürchtet sich auch nicht vor Strafrechtsinstitutionen, weil man diese Institution selber is. These are, among other things, the results of European treaties.
The resulting collapse of human orientation (systems) is intentional. It is precisely these deficits that guarantee power as it has existed unchanged for centuries. Revolutions and wars have not changed this at all. The majority of people have not (become) philosophers in the sense of being able to think in a networked, complex, multidimensional way.
Wer also nicht realisiert, dass der „Feind“ unsichtbar ist, wie er genährt, ständig belebt und neu geboren wird, glaubt in Parteien das Heil und die Lösung zu finden. Leider ist dieser Irrtum lethal: tödlich.
I like it. Cleverly and sensitively analyzed.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
vielen Dank für Ihre Arbeit und in der Tat klaren, oft auch angemessen deftigen Worte. Mit Aussagen wie „Ich trinke jetzt schon mittags“ retten Sie mir gerade wegen dieser offen nach außen getragenen und aufrichtig angenehmen Ablehnung sog. „politischer Korrektheit“ (aka betreutes Denken) schon mal ganze Tage oder Wochen.
So thank you once again for your journalistic work and also for the humor it contains.
Finally, the serious part: you write about an upcoming historic election. Agreed! BUT: ...
Technically, because of the #Corona lie, I see a pure postal vote coming our way. And I fear massive electoral fraud, in the tradition of the GDR or USSR (or USA?!?). The result is virtually a foregone conclusion.
What is your opinion on this?
Best wishes to Munich
Yours
Dr. Mathias Babel
What is the reason why we cannot free ourselves from a system that is unchristian and contradicts our morals? Robert Michels formulated the reason over 100 years ago in his book on the sociology of the party system in modern democracy and established the iron law of oligarchy. The book can be downloaded at this link. https://www.ssoar.info/ssoar/handle/document/50436
Dear Mr. Teichmann,
they speak - I wish and feel lovingly - to Christian values.
Genau diese Werte werden zumindest seit dem 2. Weltkrieg ( auf dem Koppelschloss meines Vater stand geschrieben: „Gott mit uns“) in Bundes-Politik und leider auch in den Machtstrukturen der Amtskirchen verraten und teuer verkauft. Deswegen fordert die Partei Team Todenhöfer die Kirschensteuer abzuschaffen.
I resigned and redirected these savings to parties that understood that, for example, all the reasons for war were based on lies, and the churches were largely silent.
However, we should immerse ourselves in Christian values with our hearts and minds, which would mean that individuals would see through the game of fear and lose their strength, and that politics would not save us from the imaginary enemy, but only the truth.
Even if dear (even educated) fellow human beings then want to make me understand that there are many but not just one truth.
Jesus sagt “ ich bin der Weg die Wahrheit und das Leben“ und was Jesus in seiner aramäischen Muttersprache wirklich gesagt hat, finden Sie in dem Buch von Franz Alt und dem Dalai lama. Leider wurde auch die Bibel an den entscheidenden Stellen fehlerhaft übersetzt. Wer und warum wohl??
Kind regards
Yours
Ludwig Nyhuis
Dear Mr. Nyhuis,
I wholeheartedly agree with your words about the official churches. Thank you!
Dear Mr. Nyhuis, you have said what I think! Thank you!!!
Parties? No thanks! No matter which one.
All so-called political demands for the improvement of living conditions are illusions, especially as long as they are not based on the humanities. There is an obstacle in the way of all such demands, namely the collectivization of "improvement demands". No collective can achieve anything for the better!
Collectivism is always an emotional flow. And emotions - as we know well enough, or at least should know - are not just bad advisors, but the worst possible reasons.
No! The only way to change something - and to change it in a very practical way, as there is nothing more practical in life(!) - and in such a way that it immediately unfolds its reality(!), is to position and act oneself, day by day, without relying on any collective or any statute. Nothing is more real than deciding freely every day what to do and what not to do. And there are at least a dozen situations every day in which this can be translated into changes in the reality of life!
Anyone who has thoughtlessly consumed in recent years has been the principal for the conditions that now exist. Those who today only want to comfortably renovate materialism via majority decisions qua parties are still perpetrators.
May I cordially invite you to visit the http://www.buergerfuerdeutschland.org to look at.
Join in - be part of it, get involved politically.
Welcome
Hello, Mr. Langemann.
I greatly appreciate your work.
This article is the first time there has been any dissent.
You conduct a party preference survey and do without WIR2020.
I think this is methodologically wrong. Many doubters use your channel and the question of which of the new parties (dieBasis vs. WIR2020) can generate which share of the opposition potential would have been the exciting statement of your survey!
I can well imagine that Mr. Romberg feels the same way. And I can also imagine that he is a little "pissed off" at this stage.
In your commentary, you are then also clear about what you think of Mr. Romberg's intervention. This is your final verdict on WIR2020 after disregarding it.
It is a pity that the opposition was unable to form a united front even before the election. And it's a shame that even critical media outlets make a "pre-selection" before the first election.
Dear Mr. Henne, thank you very much for your critical comment and the recognition of the work. I explained the considerations that led to the selection of the election options. I would also like to give you the opportunity at a later date to shine a light into the nursery of the - still small - parties in order to recognize the class representative potential here. Even now, however, the non-representative poll can do a little more than the established polls. There, new parties and non-voters are not surveyed at all. In any case, I take your criticism seriously. I may have underestimated the importance of the survey when planning it. That is a mistake. I can only learn from it. At any rate, I never intended to provide a framework for thinking and thus also an interpretative grid. Yours sincerely, M.L.
Hello,
I myself now take a rather critical view of WIR 2020. My personal impression is that this party is being infiltrated by other parties and that people who no longer have anything to do with the actual idea of this party are coming to the fore. As ridiculous as it may sound now and to put it in a nutshell, to use jungle camp jargon, the C-list celebrities have taken over.
That's a great pity, because I joined the party at the time because I was so gullible and believed in a real alternative to the other old parties. Anyone who doesn't go along is silenced. But that's how it works in other parties too. It's just that I have a mind of my own that is capable of thinking and that is no longer required there. Thinking should be left to others, at least that's my impression of what has happened there in recent weeks.
This party no longer has anything to do with the basic idea of Bodo Schiffmann. Moving chairs, sawing at chair legs and a lot of glue to avoid falling into the depths are things that I personally don't like.
I see no future for this party, because who do I vote for? My personal impression is left/green. Some people have joined from this corner and that is also reflected in their opinions. There is no criticism, there is only one direction, but which one? Where does this direction lead?
They don't know that themselves.
In any case, one thing is certain for me: it is no longer the party I was once interested in. It is not a party for everyone! It has become a party that is supposed to secure a living for a few people. I, for one, have made up my mind and will be leaving.
Your comment expresses by and large what is also going through my mind. When I saw Bodo Schiffmann's videos and his idea of using WIDERSTAND 2020 to show that we think the government's measures are disproportionate, I decided to become a member. At the time, I hadn't heard anything about the DIE BASIS party. It goes without saying that critical voices should be important for the WIR 2020 party because it wants to be grassroots democratic. In a young party, I think it's understandable that things can go awry here and there. But resigning? I don't know. I still wish everyone who is committed to the party every success and hope that WIR 2020 and DIE BASIS will run together until the BTW.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
an dieser Stelle möchten wir Ihnen erneut unseren Respekt und unsere Wertschätzung für Ihren großartigen Journalismus zum Ausdruck bringen. Gerade aktuell, in der Parteien Umfrage, zeigt sich wahrhaftig dass Sie wirklich neutral berichten. Wir lesen Ihre Veröffentlichungen immer deswegen besonders gerne weil Sie offen, auch mit jeder „innerbetrieblichen“ Kontroverse umgehen. Sie sind ein wahrer Journalist und Demokrat ! DANKE ! BITTE MACHEN SIE WEITER SO !
Interessant in diesem Zusammenhang ist auch der Brief des „Präsidiums“ von Wir2020 an die Mitglieder, in dem über den Prozess dieses „Präsidiums“ gegen den jetzigen Vorstand (oder auch Nicht-Vorstand) von Wir2020 berichtet wird. Irgendwie scheint es drei Parteien zu geben: Der jetzige Vorstand, der nach der Darstellung des „Präsidiums“ eben doch kein Vorstand ist, und Kai Pauling, bei dem man nicht genau weiss was er eigentlich will, außer den jetzigen Vorstand zu beschuldigen. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8wgn9dkbz7oa1e3/brief%20zum%20urteil%20lg%20saarbr%C3%BCcken%2021-02-15.pdf?dl=0
The judgment of the Regional Court of Saarbrücken will probably be published soon: https://recht.saarland.de/bssl/search
If the ruling stands, this would mean that Wir2020 still has 105 members (since all those admitted afterwards were admitted by a board that was not legally elected) - unless some of them have left in the meantime.
Furthermore, this would mean that the candidates who stood for election for Wir2020 in Baden-Württemberg are for the most part also not members and their election by other non-members is also invalid. Whether this is relevant under criminal law (voter fraud, etc.) would then have to be determined.
Hello Mr./Mrs. Vision-Creators, Seven obviously overlooked the fact that I am not judging, but reporting. In times when many people can no longer distinguish between activists and journalists, many people have unfortunately forgotten how to do so. You can't know what I stand for, what inspires me. But I can tell you that it is certainly not a stale party, but rather a sparkling drink.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
The way you write in this report makes me realize that you do not appreciate the two parties very much. You appreciate more the values of the Union, which are fully involved in our current misery. That is also an attitude.
Hello, what I value is completely beyond your knowledge. However, I would be happy to tell you here what I do not value. Groundless insinuations, for example, are one of them. Yours sincerely, M.L.
Hello Mr. Langemann,
...you parry brilliantly...Chapeau!
Dear Verena, it is very interesting what you consider brilliant. Apart from aggression and presumption in Mr. Langemann's answer and in your answer, I can't find anything. You are also allowed to educate yourself and develop further.
You simply have no idea who you are communicating with here.
“ Vision Creators“ dazu gehört mehr, als nur eine Meinung zum Ausdruck zu bringen. Kritisieren kann jeder!! Was ist Ihre Vision von Deutschland?? Und wenn sich jemand auf den Schlips getreten fühlt nur weil er in einer Umfrage nicht vertreten ist, dann zeigt einfach wie wenig “ Parteiverständnis “ wirklich vorhanden ist. Keine von den Parteien ist überhaupt in der Lage die Situation “ Deutschland “ zu meistern. Fraglich, wozu Parteien überhaupt taugen. Schon mal überlegt ob man auch ohne Parteien regieren kann? Wäre doch mal eine Vision die sich Kreieren läßt !?
Dear Jürgen, I was referring to what I considered to be a non-professional report. Even if others see it differently. The current representatives of the ruling parties are not elected by the people and the people do not have the slightest influence on these current decision-makers, except that they themselves are financed by the people for their wrong decisions. The two new parties, DieBasis and WIR2020, have emerged from the people. They are currently financing themselves. I can well imagine that if there is a general election, these two parties will become important. In my view, we are currently being led into a completely new system in which everyone is responsible for themselves - including taking political responsibility as a citizen. It's about real freedom, respect and goodwill for all. We have never experienced this before. The supposed hammock is an elaborate criminal slave system of lower beings. We will have to develop a completely new consciousness in the new era. Since we come from a manipulated, mendacious system and will live in truth and clarity in the future, and have never experienced this, let alone learned it, we are just learning and at the moment no one has a definitive solution as to how this can work. I have met many strong, extraordinary personalities through alternative media who have become members of the new parties. Only good things can come out of that. Apparently this is giving some people in this chat a severe headache.
VC, ich könnte Ihren Ausführungen eigentlich nur zustimmen, wenn wir es mit einer etwas besseren Welt zu tun hätten. Allein die Hoffnung, das intelligente, aufmerksamere Entscheidungen einen Wandel in Richtung „Bessere Welt“ bescheren, halte ich mit der derzeitigen Menschheit für utopisch. Leider. Der Marxismus-Leninismus hat es bereits vorgeführt. Der Mensch unserer Tage braucht offenbar einen, der ihn an die Hand nimmt. Also eine Gruppe, Partei eben. Was ich, und Wahrscheinlich auch Sie praktizieren, ist Schutz vor dem Selbstbetrug in einer Über- Konsum -orientierten Gesellschaft, nicht weltweit, aber in den Zonen der größten Ressourcenverschwendung.
Dear Sancho, it is the task of this time to stand up for a better world. The click that fomented, financed and managed the Second World War carried on merrily afterwards - see also the founding of the EU. This is the result we are living in today. There are only the criminals who are happy to take us by the hand. Who should take us by the hand for a better world? If we want a better world, everyone has to grow up and stand up for their rights and human rights in their own way and to the best of their ability. Everyone must be able to judge for themselves exactly who they are getting involved with, who they can tell to stop their nonsense, or who they can trust. These are high human skills. It's also clear that you can't do this in a year if you've been brainwashed for centuries. But you should have the intention. At the moment, everything is out in the open. You can see where the rule of law stands, where the politicians stand, where the hacks stand, who demands clear words and then actually passes them on. But it is developing and that is the most important thing. It's a path of experience, as always in life. Top or flop. Everyone can decide.
Good evening
whow, so it's old wine in new wineskins. If you want to be democratic, then you also have to put up with someone having a different opinion. I don't think the two new parties are there yet. In other words, let's wait and see what happens.
At WIR2020 there have already been a lot of scandals and wrangling over competence and corruption - court hearings...
Let's see what happens next.
Simply saying that we no longer want the measures is not a concept for a party. I see the danger that many people will see the parties as saviors and join them. What happens then? Then everyone leaves the party again. Because that's the hype at the moment. Which is completely understandable.
Perhaps another way can be found. I am no longer in favor of the party system. The committee has some great suggestions on how we can talk in the future.
Thank you for this survey.
We are repeatedly asked what distinguishes Wir2020 and dieBasis.
I was active in both parties and can try to answer this question.
A look at the statutes, which anyone can consult for themselves, can provide a clue.
While Wir2020 has a very conventional party structure, the grassroots are trying to live grassroots democracy within the party as well.
The difference becomes even clearer if you look at the first (in the opinion of not-anymore-or-yet-still-We2020 members still valid) original We2020 statutes. See here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztbd5v618nkym30/wir2020-bundessatzung%20alt.pdf?dl=0
Dort steht beispielsweise auf Seite 59, dass der Politische Geschäftsführer und der „Parteibeauftragte“ nach B1 BBesG bezahlt werden sollen. Das sind ca. 100.000 € Jahresgehalt. Bei dieBasis arbeiten bis jetzt ALLE Vorstandsmitglieder ausschließlich ehrenamtlich.
The opaque management structures were one reason why I am no longer involved with Wir2020, but instead enjoy the transparent and open structures at dieBasis.
100,000 € annual salary? - Fat booty!
Naja, das wird ja wohl der Hauptgrund gewesen sein, dass sich ein gewisser Kai Pauling dann wohl irgendwie hat „abfinden“ lassen.
From whatever money.
After all, Mr. Pauling wrote these statutes and then allowed himself to be elected to one of the princely positions.
Irgendwie hat das alles ein „Gschmäckle“, wie ein Schwabe sagen würde.
The statutes you mention are no longer valid. You can find the current statutes on the homepage. Best regards
Ich finde es schlimm genug, dass so etwas überhaupt jemals in einer Satzung gestanden hat, noch dazu einer „neuen“ Partei zu dieser Zeit, in der Geld die einzige Religion ist. Da ändert auch eine Änderung nichts, da sich die Haltung damit leider nicht ändert. Dieses „Gehalt“ ist weit jenseits jedes „Normalverdieners“, sogar vieler UnternehmerInnen. Da soll(t)en also die Mitglieder ordentlich blechen oder dann wieder der Steuerzahler. So etwas überhaupt anzudenken, disqualifiziert völlig und absolut.
Nice of you to join in here, Mr. Romberg.
Vielleicht können Sie ja mal öffentlich darlegen, wie die „Einigung“ mit Kai Pauling zustande gekommen ist, ob und wenn ja, wie viel Geld da geflossen ist, und wenn Geld geflossen ist, aus welchem Topf das bezahlt wurde? Und auch, warum diese „Einigung“ nur von so kurzer Dauer war, dass Herr Pauling in diversen Videos (die Sie konsequent von Ihren Mitgliedern fern zu halten versuchen, siehe https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdFrzMbVwsFkq8Pow1BVHZw ) against you and the Management Board or perhaps not the Management Board?
...exciting - the headline could be: Resist the beginnings! Thanks for the helpful look behind the scenes!
...I can only confirm that!!!
Mr. Romberg? You could help to clear things up here.
Why don't you do that?
Oder gilt auch hier das Motto „ignorieren und totschweigen“, das sie auch auf Ihren internen Chats praktizieren?
Neue Partei? Ich finde vorher benötigen wir dringend ein VERFASSUNG. Das GG wurde von Alliierten abgesegnet, bis das wiedervereinte deutsche Volk sich diese gibt. Haben wir die? Wer bestimmt, wer bei uns Karriere macht? Kaum war man/frau bei einem Bilderberger-Treffen, macht er/sie Karriere: Kohl, Merkel, Spahn, von der L., Krampf-Kakenbauer! Nicht zu vergessen die Transatlantische Brücke und das Taxistock-Institut (Theresa May, Angela M.,..) und dann als Sahnehäubchen die Auszeichnung „Young-Leadership“… Anna-Lena B. und viele mehr…. Was wollen Sie da bitteschön mit einer neuen Partei? Die Entscheidungen fallen auf einer anderen Ebene….. und wenn es nicht passt, haben wir ja noch die Briefwahl und den passenden Server in Frankfurt! Seit meinem 18. Lebensjahr habe ich immer das Wahl“RECHT“ ausgeübt! Jetzt werde ich dies nicht mehr tun, da ich keine Lust habe veräppelt zu werden…. Fragen wir doch einfach die Bilderbergs, wen sie gerne hätten und den/die nehmen wir dann…. is billiger und ehrlicher! Und dann zum Schluß noch ein heißer Tip… frankieren Sie einen Brief mit einer 2 Cent Wertmarke, unterschreiben sie diese und setzten die Straße und PLZ des Empfängers in eckige Klammern (so wurde Kriegsgefangenenpost unter den Alliierten verschickt) und Sie werden sehen, diese Briefe kommen auch heute an, habe es mehrfach ausprobiert 😉
Connect the dots and greetings from
Michaela Wassweissich
...it's not just about being able to actively participate and be heard...it's above all about balancing tangible, opposing interests, finding democratically viable compromises and tolerating differences...Babylonian confusion opens the door to totalitarian interests...I have great respect for the ancient Asian culture - but Chinese politics - no, I don't want that here...
I think it's first of all about introducing a resilient democracy... finding compromises and THEN being able to EXECUTE them...
Meine Meinung: Ich habe bei „dieBasis“ nicht das Gefühl, dass es sich um eine Partei handelt im Sinne von „Partei“. Rein rechtlich geht es aber nunmal nicht anders, sich aktiv in die Geschehnisse einzubringen und Veränderungen der völlig verkrusteten und völlig korrupten Strukturen einzuleiten. Die Begriffe „Partei“ und „Wählen“ lassen mich erschaudern. So habe ich der „dieBasis“ schriftlich auch vorgeschlagen, auf diese Termini zu verzichten. Es stößt eher ab, als dass es anziehend wirkt. Und Aussagen „…das beste, das Du je gewählt hast“ erinnert einen an die abgedroschenen Wahlslogans der vollgefressenen Altparteien. Ich meine aber, dass ein Neuanfang mit „dieBasis“ durchaus möglich erscheint. Die Ideen und Strukturen erscheinen mir mehr auf den Menschen zugeschnitten. Die parlamentarische Demokratie hatte nie den direkt Kontakt mit den Menschen und umgekehrt konnten die Menschen zu keinem Zeitpunkt direkten kontakt mit dieser haben. Das hat ein Rudi Dutschke in den späten Sechzigern auch schon völlig zurecht erkannt. Diese Demokratieform zeigt, dass sie dem Bürger misstraut. Viel mehr direkte Demokratie muss daher gelebt werden, wie es z.B. in der Schweiz der Fall ist. Vor allem muss jetzt endlich der 146 angegangen und fixiert werden. Das gilt sowohl für den 146 im GG als auch für denselben im GVG! Wir haben definitiv keine wirkliche Gewaltenteilung, wie das vergangene Jahr auch eindrucksvoll belegt hat. Die Justiz duckt sich weg – ist nicht unabhängig – und die Exekutive interessiert sich zeitweise auch nicht mehr für Gerichtsbeschlüsse. Der zutage getretene Rechtsbankrott der BRD ist nun deutlich sichtbar. Und die Altparteien, die ja zusammengenommen nur noch eine wirtschaftliche Einheitspartei sind, können die kommenden Zeiten nicht mehr bewältigen. Sie haben fertig. Es blieb ihnen aufgrund der vielen Probleme auf der Welt, deren Kontrolle sie vollständig verloren haben, nur noch der Weg in den aktuellen Totalitarismus. „Wahlen“ im September 2021? Meiner Meinung nach viel zu riskant für diese Altparteien-Mischpoke. Daher rechne ich persönlich auch mit einer „erklärten Verschiebung“ bis nach der PLandemie. Ich fürchte sogar, dass es gar keine mehr geben wird. Wozu dann auch noch?
Wie will man verkrusteten Strukturen mit altem Denken und zu häufig auch fehlendem Wissen begegnen? Deutschland braucht keinerlei neue Partei. Deutschland braucht eine Bevölkerung, die auf den Wissensstand kommt, auf dem das Ausland längst ist. Die Deutschen müssen ihre Bildungsmisere und den Bildungsnotstand beheben, ehe sie über neue Parteien nachdenken können. Was soll ein neuer Name, wenn nur alter Inhalt drin ist (alter Wein in neuen Schläuchen)? Die AfD reicht als „neue“ Partei erstmal aus. Was nicht heißt, dass neue nachwachsen können. Aber zu glauben, das Problem an sich sei „die Partei“ ist meines Erachtens vollkommen verfehlt. Deutschland krank nicht an zu wenig Parteien, Deutschland krankt an grundlegenden, fundamentalen geistigen Defiziten!
See also Basic Law Article 23 old version
Exciting questions that I am happy to answer.
This is precisely one of the main problems and probably cannot be solved in the short time available...
WIR2020 is not just made up of Mr. Romberg. WIR2020 is made up of people from all walks of life. Many of the new parties have realized during this planned crisis that we do not agree with this policy. The only way to a good society is through the participation of the people, i.e. through referendums. WIR2020 is working on concepts in a swarm, which will be examined by experts and then presented to the people as a whole for a vote. All parties have to go down the dusty party route, but does that mean that no changes will be made in the near future?
Immer wider der alte Weg, der selbe Prozeß und es wird nicht besser. Noch mehr Parteien die sich streiten und alles zerreden. Unter dem Strich: das Volk , wie sie so schön schreiben, ist nicht dabei. Wer sind die Fachleute, die die Konzepte prüfen? Ein Mensch wie Du und Ich, der Fehler macht und nur Subjektiv entscheiden kann. Ihr klebt an alter Denkweise – Demokratie in eurem Sinne bringt nichts. Um mit der Quantenphysik zu antworten, dessen Naturgesetz besagt: Wo viel gelabbert wird-bleibt keine Energie zum handeln!!! Und in diesem Staat wird nur gelabbert. Jeder will es besser wissen!! Fangt endlich an zu “ DENKEN “ und schiebt das Bestehende bei Seite . Die Masse reagiert doch nur auf suggerierte Werte die ihnen untergejubelt werden. Fragen Sie doch mal die Mitglieder der neuen und alten Parteien, welches ihre Vision für Deutschland ist, sie werden keine Antwort erhalten. Wer diese Frage in 30 Sekunden ohne Stottern beantworten kann, der ist weit Vorn! Die Masse der Parteimitglieder oder auch Anhänger bewegen sich wie ein Kornfeld im Wind. Sie schwanken so wie der Wind bläst.
Ein übergroßes Dankeschön an Sie, Jürgen! Noch immer wird überwiegend nicht realisiert, dass das „mindset“ „ausgetauscht“ werden muss. Sie bestätigen, dass mit einer Bevölkerung, deren Geistesinhalt auf alten, hergebrachten Strukturen und Denkweisen beruht, eine ’neue‘ Partei überflüssig wie ein Kropf ist. Verseuchtes Saatgut bleibt verseucht – selbst wenn es Herr Martin Linger@diebasis-sachsen ausdünnen möchte.
You cannot change what already exists in the same way that it was created. Intelligence also includes recognizing what doesn't work. To do this, you have to dig deep, because the roots go deep. If the source is contaminated, decanting becomes problematic. Putting other people at the helm... what's the point? Do these people have a different mindset? Or do they have a flash of inspiration right now? What is this flash of inspiration? Or are they once again of the opinion that philosophy is an unprofitable art? Then once again they have not understood anything. Because philosophy is not a question of perception. Philosophy is systemic analysis and therefore often highly abstract. Abstraction has the advantage of adaptation.
The question remains: What is important to people? What do they stand up for? How and why do they think the way they think? Are they themselves aware of why they think and act the way they do? What responsibility do they take for the resulting creation? Etc. pp.
Ich bin sehr für Veränderung. Aber ich halte nichts von Illusionen. Nun wird der Magier schreien: „Ruhe, die anderen lieben sie!“ Wetten, dass er Applaus erhält? Das bedingt, dass wahrhafte Veränderung grundsätzlich außerhalb der Rampenlichts geschieht. So wie die Wurzeln einer Pflanze. Sie zeigt nur das Ergebnis: ihre Blüte. Wir brauchen Persönlichkeiten, menschliche Entwicklung. So etwas ist mittels einer Partei als Vehikel nicht zu machen. Wesensbedingt. Und systemisch.
I have also been following the development of the "die basis" party for some time now. So far, this young party seems promising, at least if you look at its guiding principles. At least they seem a bit different. Compared to what we are used to.
In one of the videos in which the party's immediate goals were discussed, there was talk of convincing as many of the newly formed parties as possible to unite with or join the party "die basis" in order to join forces. I see both opportunities and risks in this. It is of course true that the newly established small parties have little chance of entering parliament if they do not unite and each party fights for votes on its own. However, there is also the danger that in the course of or after the unification of several small parties under one umbrella - e.g. the party "die basis" - scuffles over leadership claims and subsequent trench warfare will immediately break out, which can immediately destroy these promising beginnings.
I would like to support the "die basis" party, even if I would never join a party again myself. Above all, I wish this party a lot of courage, strength and wisdom for its founding efforts in the federal states.
dieBasis has been founded in all 16 federal states and is already in the election campaigns for the state elections. In less than a year, with around 8000 members, they have built up such structures completely on a voluntary basis. Respect!
As long as these mental deficits persist, there is absolutely no point in forming parties of any kind. Anyone who sees a party as competition is practically out, is unfit for a new era. New means new consciousness. I don't want to and I can't explain this here in a nutshell. But there are enough sources that interpret this term in more detail. One thing is certain: it also has a spiritual dimension. This certainly puts some people off, but it doesn't change the facts. An excellent source for all this is David Icke. Bitte nicht abschrecken lassen und alles auf sich wirken lassen… selbst wenn so manches zunächst „unglaublich“ anmutet. Vieles, was David in seinen Bücher schreibt, findet sich in uralter Weltliteratur mit Quellen belegt. Er denkt sich das also nicht aus. Ich selbst werde niemals einer Partei beitreten, selbst wenn ich mittels Direktzuwendungen an Repräsentanten eine unterstütze.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
First of all, thank you very much for this information. Since you have stood for serious reporting for me from March last year until today and have not disappointed me so far in terms of content (because of the serious research), I take this article seriously and will spread it further so that a broader environment can (hopefully) form an opinion on who not to vote for, provided that fair human interaction is a premise of the election decision.
However, I do not entirely agree with the assessment that the reason for the phone call and the accusation (bought, conspired, convoluted) is due to the fact that the enemy is suspected around every corner. I am of the opinion that the basic idea behind these accusations is the same as that of the current government: the will to force conformity, coupled with hysteria. Dissenters are not welcome and become traitors. Our society is in war mode. The tendency towards totalitarian thinking is taking hold in the majority of society and public discourse is unfortunately ideologically poisoned, making democratic conditions and a return to an open society increasingly unlikely. As far as parliamentary democracy is concerned, I agree with my predecessors. I fear that this party system will always lead to the dismantling of democracy rather than its realization. To substantiate this thesis, I refer to Sarah Wagenknecht and her party Die Linke. Ms. Wagenknecht is rejected by her own party because of the opinion she represents in public (and this opinion is clearly to the left). I have been allowed to vote since 1998 and voted for the PDS in my first election and have remained loyal to this party in the following decades. This is over now. I always defended the Left Party when it was accused of being just like the SED. .....I can no longer do that. I don't have the arguments.
Dear Mr. Gaupel,
Would you allow me to reply to a few points, even if you are addressing Mr. Langemann?
Diese Entwicklung habe ich seit etwa 2004 festgestellt. Damals gab es eine neue Businessplattform im Internet namens open Business Club (openBC), der später in XING umfirmierte, börsennotierte und heute noch tätig ist. XING ist inhaltlich vergleichbar mit LinkedIn. Damals schon war auf den Foren festzustellen, dass Menschen ein sehr starkes Bedürfnis hatten, spirituelle Dimensionen in die Welt- und Gesellschafts- bzw. Geschäftsbetrachtung einfließen zu lassen. Sie spürten, dass die Rückbindung an sich selbst unverzichtbar war. Das wurde – zunehmend vom Unternehmen respektive der Geschäftsführung selbst – argwöhnisch beäugt, es kam zu „Meldungen“, Löschung von Beiträgen, Rauswurf aus Foren, bis hin zum offenen Krieg gegen „Esoteriker“, der sich von der verbalen Ebene auf die reale, wirtschaftliche Ebene verlagerte und Menschen angegriffen, diffamiert, gerufmordet, usw. wurden. Einige wurden sogar deswegen von der Plattform „entfernt“, ihnen wurde der Account gekündigt oder gesperrt – exakt das, was wiur heute mit Facebook, Twitter, YouTube & Co. erleben.
I left at some point because I didn't see any point in paying a monthly fee to be cut, coerced, branded and denigrated. Incidentally, anyone who deviated was also affected Recognized larger law firmswhich surprised me even then that they were messing with them. Basically over nothing.
Das alles muss demanch im Laufe der Jahre noch vie krasser geworden sein, was ich nicht unmittelbar einschätzen kann, da ich mich von der Front zurückgezogen habe. Ich sehe aber, dass nicht mehr viel übrig ist vom ehemals „freien Markt“. Und ich sehe, dass jede abweichende Haltung bis aufs Blut bekämpft wird und dass Verluste eingeplant sind. Das sind eindeutige Kennzeichen des Krieges. Es geht um Vernichtung, nicht Verständigung. Verdrängung statt Kooperation.
At the same time, the circumstances offer great opportunities for those who can reflect. The impacts are getting closer every day and the related caliber is getting bigger and bigger. There will certainly be no physical shooting any time soon. Psychological warfare, however, is unmistakable. Very few people are trained in this, they can do little to counter it and therefore succumb to the constant fire that rains down on them like a chemical club.
Having grown up 1/3 in the GDR, I clearly recognize the working methods of the MfS at the VS etc. The FRG's domestic secret service has long been carrying out subversion activities in political movements along the lines of an MfS handbook, as even the Dr. Hans-Georg Maaßen confirmed!
And Thomas Wüppesahl, federal spokesman for the Kritische Polizisten e.V., makes the same statements. War is being waged against the citizens by the domestic secret service. Former GDR citizens know this. For citizens of the FRG - i.e. none Schwerstkriminellen – ist relativ neu, wenn ein SEK ihnen um 6 Uhr morgens die Wohnungs-/Haustür eintritt, den Inhaber knebelt und fixiert, die Räume stürmt, eine Durchsuchung durchführt und alle Fernkommunikationsmittel beschlagnahmt. Beispielhafter Tatvorwurf: „Ausstellen unrichtiger Gesunheitszeugnisse (z.B. Atteste)“ respektive „Titelmissbrauch“. Das sind Delikte, so sie denn zutreffen, im untersten Bereich der Strafbarkeit liegen, so genannte Petty offenses are. That is definitely political justiceas they all took place with people who are associated with criticism of the coronavirus measures, such as doctors and lawyers.
I'm basically wondering how you can take advantage of the current situation to found new parties . You raise false hopes in people that you cannot fulfill to about 95% . Why weren't these parties founded years ago if you have such great motives? There has already been a crisis for a long time.
The Greens also once had a good program ....., but only until they were able to cross the 5% hurdle
Last summer, I decided to get involved in politics after all, as it is now obvious that something urgently needs to change in our country.
I looked at all the parties and then became aware of theBasis. If we want to change something in society and continue to live in a liberal democracy with a social market economy, only theBasis came into consideration for me.
I now support them very actively and we are already taking part in the local elections in Hesse. We are still a small group from all walks of life and our aim is to reform the system from within and put it on a solid footing for the future. There is still a long way to go, but if the grassroots continue like this, we will be a driving force in the near future.
At the moment, I am experiencing an abuse of power by those in power that leaves me powerless and which I consider to be deeply corrupt and destructive. It is incomprehensible to me that the Bundestag has allowed power to be taken out of its hands in this way. The fact that the courts also support all of this, are they so cowardly, so tied to politics? I expect nothing less from the mainstream media. It's a great awakening to the true situation. If it were up to me, there would be no more parties at all, but parties would always be formed anew at any time according to the issues. If every single person and especially those in leading positions do not pursue values of truth, love, peace, sincerity and non-violence (including verbally), governing will remain ruling, exercising power, coercion and pressure. The current government does not serve the good, but serves the devil, e.g. in maintaining fear. It serves the super-rich, but not us. An installed system of fear can never create anything happy. It is up to inner personal development whether rulers see themselves as servants or as rulers. The more power a person gets, the more they should live a servant attitude. In this respect, I have a lot of hope for the grassroots, but I know that it is all too easy to fall back into the usual ego structures. It requires exhausting constant reflection and humility. But I find much more of this in some sincere characters and strong personalities from the grassroots, where I really hope a new chancellor will emerge.
Don't worry about it, Gerlinde. I get fainting spells when I read some of the comments here.
You talk about love, peace, honesty and non-violence. But at the same time you complain that the government, the judiciary and the media are all in cahoots. You can't get any more blather than that.
Füllmich: angebliche Sammelklage gegen Drosten. über 1,3 Mio. Euro eingesammelt von Leuten, die sich an der Sammelklage beteiligen. Danach das Statement „es wurde nie behauptet, wir machen eine Sammelklage gegen Drosten“. Jetzt wurden wohl fleißig Rechnungen geschrieben, damit man auch an diese große Summe Geld rankommt, mit einer Scheinklage gegen.. ja gegen wen oder was eigentlich? Völlig egal. Es war ja nie Absicht, einen Prozess zu gewinnen. Mit den über 1,3 Mio. kann man sehr gut leben.
Über Bodo Schiffmann brauchen wir glaube ich nicht lange reden. Ruft auf seinem Kanal seine Follower dazu auf, einen Youtuber „mundtot“ zu machen, weil er sich von dem genervt fühlt. Wie krank muss man eigentlich im Kopf sein, damit man so austickt?
Ludwig spreads lies again and again. Ultimately on his YouTube channel, Janko Williams never claimed to be a lawyer. Unfortunately, there are videos on the internet that show exactly that.
So the association should put its own house in order before making such ridiculous comments about the old parties.
One can only hope that these corona denialist parties disappear into the abyss as quickly as they were resurrected.
…ach wissen Sie – ich für meine Person “ leugne“ nicht, dass es eine neue, fiese Erkrankung gibt, die man bestimmt nicht braucht. Und noch weniger leugne ich das Vorhandensein von Viren…u.a. auch SARS-CoV2 mit inzwischen über 5000 Mutationen…Das Virus verdient den Namen: „severe acute respiratory Syndrom“ allerdings nicht, denn es macht in 93% genau das nicht…man darf dann schonmal die Realität korrekt wahrnehmen und nicht nur der medialen und politischen Angstneurose aufsitzen…
Danke Verena, ich finde es inzwischen sehr nervig wenn von „Corona-Leugnern“ gesprochen wird. Genau so stupide ist der Begriff „Klima-Leugner“. Diese Begriffe wurden allerdings eingefuehrt, um ein Schwarz-Weiss-Denken zu etablieren, und siehe da, es funktioniert. Entweder man ist komplett dem Dogma verfallen, oder man leugnet das Virus und schwoert allem ab. Eine Grauzone, die ausdrueckt, dass die Realitaet dann doch etwas komplexer ist, darf es nicht geben. Niemand leugnet,dass es das Virus gibt. Niemand leugnet, dass es Menschen gibt, die daran sterben.
Where is the evidence for your gossip. Disgusting.
https://www.gisaid.org/
And
Rki/Stiko, Epidemiologisches Bulletin 5 21 (nicht barrierefrei, aber herunterzuladen) wie auch der Abschnitt “ klinischer Bericht“ in den rki- Steckbriefen und Vorversionen des Epidemiologischen Bulletins, wissenschaftliche Begründung der Stiko. „Geschwätz“ verbitte ich mir.
You seem to be a fact checker. It's crazy what you come up with and sell as truth.
No - I'm just in the middle of it, responsible to give solid advice and have been doing almost nothing else for 1 year than serious research, reading and taking unvarnished note of every side of the coin...
And oops: due to the order of the chats, the person addressed is probably confused here...
yes, the comment is the answer to comment Milena from February 20, 2021 at 5:21 pm
Kann ich die Quelle für diese Aussage erfahren? Im Übrigen stimmt sie. Füllmich & Partner führen eine Sammelklage gegen die Aussage, der PCR-Test könne Infektionen nachweisen. Drosten ist dabei der Frontman, der „first name“. Reiner Füllmich & Partner sind integer. Gegenteiliges ist zu beweisen. Es würde auch rein logisch wenig Sinn machen, sich als Anwalt in die Öffentlichkeit zu stellen und derart angreifbar zu machen, denn es geht beileibe nicht um Drosten, hier geht es um andere Player anderer Größenordnung, da ist Drosten peanuts dagegen. Und ich glaube, Sie kennen den fachlichen Hintergrund von Dr. Füllmich nicht, um hier sine Integrität anzuzweifeln. Sie sind wenig glaubwürdig – gelinde gesagt.
Ich stimme zu: Herrn Schiffmanns Integrität ist unbesreitbar, da erübrigt sich jeder Kommentar. Ehe sich Herr Schiffmann „genervt fühlt“ muss man ihm ganz ordentlich ans Bein gepinkelt haben. So eine Sauerei muss sich niemand gefallen lassen. YouTube macht alles Missliebige mundtot, sogar Langemann Medien. Was wollen Sie hier also vorbringen? Ich möchte Sie bitten, wenigstens hier, auf Herrn Langemann eigenen Servern, keinen Privatkrieg zu führen!
Schwachsinn! Janko Williams hatte in Berlin eine Weste mit der Aufschrift „Rechtsanwalt“ an, und zwar zu einer Demonstration zur Abgrenzung als Ordner bzw. Kenntlichmachung als „Ansprechpartner in Sachen Recht“. Zwar trifft das tatsächlich nicht zu, er ist kein Rechtsanwalt (hat „nur“ 1. Staatsexamen), ist allerdings „im Eifer des Gefechts“ passiert und keinesfalls in irreführender Absicht. Ihm deshalb „Titelmisbrauch“ anhängen zu wollen, kann nur einem absolut kranken Gehirn entspringen, das einen anderen Menschen vorsärzlich schädigen möchte und wo es nicht darum geht, andere vor Schaden zu bewahren. Ein solcher Schaden ist nachweislich nicht entstanden. Plärren Sie hier also bitte(!) nicht herum und erwecken keinen falschen Eindruck. Das kann auch justziabel werden, ganz am Rande.
Dr. Füllmich, Dr. Schiffmann and Mr. Ludwig are not corona deniers but clarifiers. They are actively campaigning against these criminal measures. These three gentlemen are under a lot of pressure and are still looking for solutions. I have great respect for that. But from their couch, completely blinded by the mainstream media, they condemn people who stand up for human rights. How sick or stupid is that? What is your real concern? Have you not yet arrived at the reality that a large number of people are facing ruin in terms of their health, mental health and finances? Or perhaps you are enjoying this situation - that would fit in with the masochistic things you have written. There is no other way I can explain why you defame three gentlemen or the people who organize themselves in the new parties with stupid statements. It remains to be seen whether these parties will result in the same criminal actions as the current ones or whether they will provide human impetus. If you come up with your own solutions for a peaceful and healthy society, then I can take you seriously.
Have you been vaccinated today?
Why are you asking this question? Are you able to express clearly what you want to say? With emotional intelligence this is possible, isn't it?
Sorry Mr. Vision-Creator - you don't seem to be familiar with either humor or differentiating analysis, but you do seem to be blessed with arrogance - probably an unpleasant contemporary. And: can you tie your own shoelaces yet?
Thank you for this contribution.
I don't think the new ones are primarily about corona. The more important question is whether the model of representative democracy can still reflect the zeitgeist of the population at all. In my opinion, corona is only the indicator - not the core. People want to have a say - instead of simply having to swallow party programs. The question is therefore: if there is no one from politics who can obviously do better, then only the people remain.
Realistically speaking, hardly any new party will provide the surprise chancellor. But it is about a trend - and if this forces the established parties to revise their programs, then the world will be a little better again. Competition is known to stimulate business...
Dear Mr. Langemann, hello Markus (among players)
I am always curious about journalists who use terms or metaphors from the world of people at play.
Fancy a game of chess, go or other mind games?
Then this is an invitation.
If not: Do not read any further.
If so, this is an invitation to the world of (everyday) play.
The FAIRE TERMINSPIEL:
One determines the conversation space, the other the conversation TIME space.
I'll add the missing one.
BACKGROUND, no UNDERGROUND
Ich war im Sommer 20 bei WIR2020 und bin dann nach wenigen Wochen wieder raus. „Partei Nein danke!“
2 Monate später lernte ich durch Zufall auf einer Geburtstagsparty Birgit Osburg (BASIS-LV Schleswig-Holstein) kennen. Sie + andere LV SH-Mitglieder haben mich (und meine Frau!!! die sich bis dahin überhaupt nicht für Politik zu haben war) für die BASIS gewonnen und im Dezember den Wunsch nachgeschoben, „kandidiere doch für den BASIS-Bundesvorstand“. Nachdem ich nun in 2 ZOOM-Meetings den jetzigen erweiterten Bundesvorstand kennenlernte, habe ich vor ein paar Wochen meine Kandidatur angekündigt (Bundesparteitag am 20.-21.3. Hannover).
Weitere „Untergründe“ gerne im Gespräch.
Here the rising sun laughs from the bottom of its heart and from a clear sky
Best regards
Holger (among whole people)
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Herzlichen Dank für diese Wortschöpfung…“besäufniserregend“
🙂
It should be credited to the new parties that people who until last spring only perceived politics from the outside are coming together in changing constellations to form a new idea of political work. At times, this is also an experimental process. It would be fatal to apply the usual standards of an old-fashioned party agenda here for the sake of simplicity. It would be better to apply the childlike curiosity of looking at a caterpillar and let yourself be surprised.
...brave new world...(it has already been saved once...)
Die „grossen“ Parteien schmilzen wie Butter in der Sonne – kleinere Splitterparteien sprießen wie Pilze…“regierungsfähig“ sieht anders aus. Erinnert eher an Weimarer Republik…Und: hat der Bundestag schliesslich das Rückgrat, eine „global governence“, „privat-partnership“ oder Machthungrigen Grosskonzernen Schranken zu setzen, auch hier auf Rechtmässigkeit zu achten? Mit „wir haben uns alle lieb“ wird das nichts…aber auch hier versagt ja der Staat jetzt schon…kann jemand schon chinesisch?? Nicht? Dann wird es Zeit…
Tough, but hits the nail on the head
Verena, isn't it more like this: the Bundestag is the ladder that the globalists climb to explain our new world to us from above when the time comes. Power-hungry corporations are becoming stakeholders. It used to be thought that only a state could expropriate corporations. We should be much more concerned with the fact that in this day and age, corporations have appropriated states. We don't need to learn Chinese .... , we just need to adopt their social structure (which is old hat for us Europeans, as we know in Eastern Europe). The western hemisphere will remain with us. Just without the fuss (participation, equal opportunities, self-determination, open discourse, etc.).
Es ist schon lange her, als ich in einem hitzigen Gespräch mit einer Bekannten über die Frage ob es Gott gibt oder nicht, meine Antwort gefunden habe. Sie führt mich direkt zum Menschsein und der bitteren Erkenntnis, das es nie möglich sein wird in einem Paradies der Liebe und Freiheit zu leben. Auf meine Frage, warum Gott so viel Unrecht zulässt, war die Antwort meiner Bekannten kurz und knapp. “ Gott hat uns einen freien Willen mit gegeben.“ Da waren sie also, die Dornen im viel gepriesenen Rosengarten. Heute bin ich 62 und weis, solange es Mensch gibt wird es auch Unfreiheit und Hass geben. Niemals aber hätte ich es für möglich gehalten, dass es ein so grosses Ungleichgewicht zwischen den Haltungen der Menschen gibt, wenn es um Recht und Unrecht geht. Es wird sie auch weiter geben, die politische Unaufrichtigkeit. So wie es den Machtmissbrauch, die Profitgier und die Korupption immer geben wird und das solange wie es das Menschsein geben wird. Vielleicht haben wir ja jetzt tatsächlich die Chance zu einem eigenen Reset um einen neuen Weg von respektvollem Umgang im Miteinander zu gehen. Es wird viele, neue Parteien geben mit vielen, neuen Versprechen. Achten wir jetzt besser darauf, dass unsere Zukunft und die unserer Kinder eine wirklich freie und demokratische sein wird. Die Basis ist für mich ein guter Beginn.
The huge wave of the Resistance2020 movement, which emerged thanks to the educational work of two prominent protagonists, one from the field of medicine and a lawyer who was untrained in the media at the time, gave rise to an impressive wave of willingness to get politically involved.
Then the first withdrawal of the initiator Victoria Hamm and then the split into dieBasis and WIR2020.
dieBasis currently has a clearly better "occupation coutch" with members of the Corona Committee Foundation who have now achieved deserved fame, WIR2020 is struggling with extremely early infiltration and decomposition. A party chairman who allowed himself to be illegally elected after the driving force was bullied out in good time. Nevertheless, the hope of healing dies last here too, especially as the election campaign in Baden-Württemberg is already in full swing and the federal election is within sight.
The lawyer with no media experience is probably Mr. Ludwig, if I can see it correctly.
I thought it was pretty weak at Widerstand2020, but now I really like it and it shows that people can be
grows with the challenges, very quickly if necessary.
I can recommend his Telegram channel, and I also recommend to all readers, true to the motto
#now more than ever# to join DieBasis, currently probably one of the least serious
Movements that truly represent the people.
https://dasvolkgegencorona.com/
The question of a common field for all new parties is probably the desire to get an overview of how many people overall criticize the measures and attitude of the current government on the subject of corona etc. and reject the old parties. An informative post about what happens - if you don't vote, if you invalidate your vote, if splinter parties remain under 5% would be very informative. Thank you.
Dear Mr. Langemann,
These are exactly my fears towards any party. I have lost all trust in politicians and parties. Ever since I've been eligible to vote, I've voted left of center. This is also the case in this legislative period. I gave my vote in confidence to the left. I entrusted them with my vote. I trusted them to speak on my behalf for the issues that this party stands for and therefore for my issues. I would never have guessed that an opposition party would tolerate all these restrictions to the constitution. Well, a new election is coming up. For me, the focus is currently only on the grassroots. Do I agree with that? No, not really. But I have no other option. Even now I notice that many people are trying to storm to the top again. What is that? Why do we need "leaders" and governments. The word alone repels me. I don't want to be governed. I want a real democracy where every vote counts and that applies to every important decision. Referendums without end. I don't want to give anyone more POWER by casting my vote. I'm very worried that the same thing will happen again with the new parties. I am very grateful to them for publishing what happened with their poll. Thank you for transparency and honesty in these times. I really appreciate your work.
With best regards
Petra seifert
Genauso geht’s mir auch. Demokratie von ganz unten, Direktwahl in den Gemeinden, Landkreisen. Da wo man die Menschen kennt, die man wählt. Wo ich einen Ansprechpartner habe, wo ich viel direkter mit „eingreifen“ kann. Auch bis in die höchsten Ämter durch Direktwahl seine Stimme abgeben. An Menschen, die in ihrem Leben etwas vollbracht haben, mit gesundem Menschenverstand und Fachwissen. Wir brauchen kein Parlament, sehen wir ja jetzt, durch Volksentscheide können wir, der Souverän, wirklich unsere Geschicke in die Hände nehmen.